I am having a problem with a part of J.D.'s teaching, and I wonder what others think and maybe they can shed some light for me.
I have copied word for word part of the sermon that I am concerned with and present it here. Minute 55 onwards.
When someone asks the question of How can you make the statement that someone is not a Christian?
The answer to that question is visa ve another question. How can someone make the statement that someone IS a Christian?
The answer to the latter question is the answer to the original question. Moreover, by virtue of the fact that the original question is even asked, is an answer unto itself, as there should be no question about whether or not someone is a Christian.
When someone is born, there is no question that they have been born. So to, is this true, if someone is born again. There is no question that they’ve been born again. If there is any question about whether or not someone is born again, then the answer to that question is they are not born again. This because, if they were born again, there would be no question. (Song: If you are saved and you know it then your life will surely show it.) Listen, you are going to know. And if there is a question mark, pretty good chance they are not.
Maybe I didn’t fully understand what J.D. was trying to get across. I think his answer is painted with a broad brush that does not really cover things completely.
What about Carnal Christians? Are they NOT Christians?
Maybe they just never got any proper teaching. (That would be making excuses for them like J.D. says.)
The Corinthian church was a very carnal church and yet Paul called them Brethren. Would Paul call Non Born again people his Brethren?
They were doing some pretty horrendous things in the church which Paul was rebuking them for.
Things like getting drunk at the Lord’s table, tolerating and excusing sexual immorality, dividing the body over teachers, abusing spiritual gifts, denying the bodily resurrection, etc.
If we see some people doing those types of things, we might be asking: “How can we KNOW if they are really Christians?”
And what about those that are in a backslidden state? Have they lost their salvation?
And how does this all fit in with the ABC plan of salvation.
How can we truly know someone’s heart and if they are truly believing or not?
Anyway, these were some of my thoughts when I heard what he had to say, and I wondered if I am not understanding him correctly.
I am not trying to start an argument or even any discussions. Just wondering what everyone else might think.