May 16 2021: Bible Prophecy Update

lol, I’ve been hearing this often too, like when going to the farmers market and their radio is on. to me it’s like, rather than end-times as we anticipate as Christians, the radio’s take on it is that we are heading into the “new normal.” bleh. the end of the world as we know it, yes, but not like they think it is! :] praying for the Saving of those in charge of radio stations. I’m sure plenty of them need it still.


Thank you,
And now I rest my case on the witness’s testimony.

Amen and Shalom


@alllllz , @Lisa

I keep hearing the other one… “Losing my religion” :smiley:

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Today would be nice! :slight_smile:

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Can I get a witness I am one short.

As I was cruising down a country road today. I heard a scripture scripture come to my remembrance.

This is the word I heard in my minds and it sounded like I was reading it to myself.

2 Corinthians 13:1
This is the third time I am coming to you. “By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established.”

Its not exactly like when folks say God said or told me but he did remind me of what he already taught me…

Luke 12:12
For at that time the Holy Spirit will teach you what you should say."


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@TCC … lovely instrumental of one of my favorite hymns. Thanks!

I wonder if things like this will happen here if Biden doesn’t get his required 70% by July 4th?


Hi Dan. Thanks for your reply. In simple form, did God bless Rome? Why was Rome so powerful? And even for a few centuries to come. She who killed Messiah and she who destroyed Israel? Rome was around for another 400 years. God is slow to anger.

So lets call America Rome. Equally as bad. But God chose Rome for His purposes. He used Greek and Greece too. God used Rome to be a central hub by which the gospel goes out. He used Greek as a most fluid language throughout surrounding regions. Neither Rome nor Greece deserved His blessing. Especially after killing Messiah.

If you are trying to understand my view points as though they are coming from a Merica (McDonalds, Selfies, Fast Cars, and Make a Profit), then your correct, my view is shallow. And nothing more than “I just like to sing God Bless America…can’t we all just get along.” The bias you suspect might be why I see what I see equally challenges the bias you may have in accepting what I am saying. Please consider.

The tribulation is about Israel. And even as it starts, it is the AC making a covenant with them. Of course. But what leads up to that may involve America. We can’t just rule it out. As to “all the trees” well this is just meaning that all the nations will display before us a sense of end time signatures. The leaves = indicators of end time season. The UN is an indication of a one world government. It shows a joint cohesion of nations unusual for an age. Marking our age. I don’t look at all the trees at the expense of not looking at Israel. Israel has to be on the map and hot topic for this to occur. They occupy both…which would infer that all the trees are in play as well. And we do see this. That is all I am saying. I am not trying to look through a lens. I am just being objective. And it seems that America will play a huge role as the tribulation approaches.

In answering your first question, I would say that answer = look at the book of Esther. For irony’s sake. To answer your second question, if the USA cleans house, and the globalist loose power globally in affect, you don’t think that might not help Israel in theory? What we are talking about here Dan is the 1st seal (in my view). Not, “Trump is the little caboose who could. It’s ok Trump, try try again there little buddy.” In my narrative, Trump is not Gilligan. Let me ask you this, if Trump is the 1st seal, how could his coming back into power not affect Israel powerfully? Its not about political power in that scenario. Its about apocalyptical power my friend. If true. Blessings.

I tried to share this on FB and it will not post other things today from here were covered up with the regular Fact Checker liar’s.

So obvious

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Actually I have no problem with that as we have the Roman Mafia brought in by the FBI and the Nazi’s brought in by the CIA or at least their Masons forerunners. Funny thing the Nazi’s actually beat out the Masons that ran NASA before it was over.

Ya’ll may want check out this guys bio, more than interesting!

Yes, if you look at the world nations but I guess we ask who is he talking to?

Now when you look have the focus on the world yes dual maybe maybe not. I fully expect the these nations come to arms before Ezekiel 38-39 as possibly Psalm 83. But never the less.

Well I see a mad rush to destroy Israel before he takes office just as we see today as the terrorist surrounding Israel at the ready now all they need is money from Jobama.

I don’t blame Trump or give him all the credit for Gaza uprising or next one. I mainly point to the no leader aspect and now a liberal leader in Israel.

And its not going to be called Ezekiel 38-39

To me it sounds like you are looking farther down the road for the rapture than I do.

So my take if Trump is the 1st white horse red headed rider then I won’t see it anyway at least not from a 3d but a 4d view.


My take is a tribulation start point sometime in 2024 based on research. No one knows. But that is my understanding. Although, Dan, yeah it could certainly be this year. The way I understand it (which may not be accurate) is the 1st seal seems to have rapture timing associated with it. If Trump is, we’d likely see the non-apocalyptical version of what eventually becomes that. Only God knows. Blessings.


Yes Sir,
We haven’t see nothing yet!
But personally I think multiple seals open quickly because they look like one causes the other. We shall know soon either way I believe too.



I always thought the White Horse Rider was AC but today I was reviewing the Mark Correll Revelation series and he said the the rider on the White horse was “The Word” going forth to Conquer for the Kingdom. I never saw it like that I only saw it as Yeshua Jesus himself would not be riding in at this time but its the Word from Yeshua riding in.

In other words Before the unleashing of Judgment / Wrath on the Earth the Word goes forth to bring folks to Christ one more time before it all starts comes down.

Just like he gave the Pharisees one last chance before they stoned Steven and yet only Paul was saved from that crowd that we know of.

That sounds just like something Yeshua would do don’t you think?



Amen. Nice one Dan. :heart: One of my favorite commentators (who i disagree with quite a bit) is Lenski. He holds to that view you share. I believe it came out of the reformation. Prior to that I believe is where the view that the white horse rider was Christ sponsored by the Pope of Vicar. Makes sense the reformers would go with “the word” instead of that one. Nice to see you in thought. For when you saw that you saw His character in the first century. I am blessed you see this brother. God bless.

Yes but Paul throughout the entire book of Acts tried to win over the Jews. Even until the closing chapter in Acts when Paul tried to talk to them again and further once he got back to Rome. Back in chapter 7 of Acts Stephen went to the Sanhedrin to testify what had happened. He was giving them a chance to receive Christ as a nation. Had the Sanhedrin or the Pharisees…it would have prevented the tribulation likely. I think what Dan is getting at is that God showed mercy on the Jews even though they constantly were stubborn. After Paul partook in stoning Stephen, God had mercy on Him and had him write most of the new testament. From what I understand it sounds like what Dan is getting at. Blessings.

OK, Well here is the rest of my current path of research. Pointing to the 1st seal white horse as good not evil. As this one I find a bit different now.

Yeshua Sets up the stage:

Revelation 3:21
To the one who overcomes, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.

Brings in the holy spirit weapons for the New Saints after the rapture that draws untold numbers the Christ. The new spirit filled warriors, so now we see the earth refilled by the spirit after the body (spirit) leaves the earth,

Revelation 6:2
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Joel 2:28
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Isaiah 44:8
Do not tremble or fear. Have I not told you and declared it long ago? You are My witnesses! Is there any God but Me? There is no other Rock; I know not one."

Revelation 14:14
And I looked and saw a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was One like the Son of Man, with a golden crown on His head and a sharp sickle in His hand.

Revelation 19:11
Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True. With righteousness He judges and wages war.



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I don’t see a Victory as holding back the AC I do see a victory of harvest time.

Even though the Saints don’t prevail they still keep on harvesting and that’s the victory.

Each sacrifice for the Lord then is a victory.



Wow interesting transition Dan. Even though we see differently on several fronts, we have always had much in common. Now this: We each are the only ones with a lone standing view of the 1st seal (at least as it relates to this forum). Blessings…and I am surprised but encouraging how you have been thinking this kind of thing over. Blessings.

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I am believe that before the other seals fall the 1st may, might, I hope be the word of God coming down in full force to save and tell them to braise for what’s coming…

I still need to find a verse that might upset this thinking but can’t find it yet.


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Inspired by the discussions between brothers I’ve also been casually skirting this area of eschatology, albeit in a far more casual manner.

The word ‘bow’ as it relates to the rider of the 1st Seal Rev 6:2 did pique my interest as I began to ponder if perhaps it referred to some counterfeit/bastardisation of the ‘bow’ as per the covenant of peace from Gen 9:13 (rendered ‘bow’ in KJV), which would serve my conscious bias mightily.

Alas no, totally different words in root and form.

However, for your consideration:

Rev 6:2 - ‘bow’

Strong’s Concordance: 5115

Definition: a bow

(KJV) Usage: 1

Within the most epic and pored over eschatological prophecies of all ages could it truly be that Holy Spirit chose to convey the omnipresent and almighty majesty of the Word of God conquering and spreading throughout the world via the 1st Seal armed with a solitary and single-use …Tox’on?

I appreciate this is more semantic etymological jousting than valid, hermeneutical argumentation but as I said it’s intriguing to observe the twists and turns (whilst sipping milk).

In Christ