November 15 2020: Bible Prophecy Update - What If?

Yes, Kina1234, I am originally from South Africa, but are now living in Australia. So lekker om met iemand vanaf die Vaderland te praat. Alle seen vanaf my huis na joune.

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The two songs Pastor JD mention and sang:

  1. Bill & Gloria Gaither - There’s Something About That Name (Live)
  1. Give Me Jesus - Fernando Ortega
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Thanks for your concern Gigi. I appreciate your heart. I know there will be varying opinions on so many differing issues of each side. I really appreciate too JD’s heart and his warnings as well. I don’t know how many did this, but when JD recommended e511 on youtube for backdrop on the great awakening, I did the whole two hours right away. I totally understand his and others concern. One thing that was really cool about e511 is that it helps us understand we are alive at a time when Christians and New Agers are joining efforts in becoming "truthers.’ And pointing out how deeply interested New Agers have been over the years in conspiracy theories. As well as noting that the first conspiracy was: “Hath God said?”

After posting a bit on this board, I realize there are mixed feelings about Trump. Some support him, others don’t trust the man. And then Qanon. Boy oh boy, is this a confusing time or what? lol. On Point Preparedness (OPP) is someone I have also watched for a few years now. He is also extremely weary of the great awakening. However, OPP thinks believers are going through the tribulation, i disagree, i’m a pretribber like JD. And hope OPP is wrong about something.

The approach I take is that i think it is awesome of so many caring hearts to have concerns on so many levels. It certainly looks like whatever is attached to Trump is not normal. I have never seen a President inaugurated by heretics praying over him in the Oval Office. Spooky times. But I don’t think Jack Hibbs love for Trump is NAR or that Jack pays any attention to Qanon that I know of. Well just referring to him as a beloved brother of JD’s. And even though JD is concerned about Trump and Hibbs is not, it might be a good thing too to understand that there can be many supporters of Trump that weigh nothing about Qanon…which is a good thing. They are not tempted to be swayed by the negatives brought on by NAR or New Age. For them it is just voting for not turning America into a socialist country.

With everything going on, it looks like perhaps America going socialist is the least of our concerns in this apparent prophetic age. On one hand if God wants to protect America, He will (Qanon or no Qanon). If this is the strong delusion (which I would see as closer to the mid trib with antichrist demanding worship) then yeah, I would guess that socialism smoshalism…it really won’t matter. So we are at a fork: Is the protection of democracy in the last days in regards to gospel reach of import, or is it a shorter time than that and shouting from the rooftops timing is where we are at as the arc door swings close. That is a hard call to make. I would say there are strong indicators on both sides.

Well, I just wanted to interject an air of gratitude to your concern but also that one thing too I have noticed. The evil one wants us confused us so as too to go after each other. Which ever end is up…it is good to rest in the sovereignty of God. I used to be concerned how successful the freemasonry plans and prophecies were going, for example. But it is of equal, if not greater measure, that the prophecies that are real are His. And suspicions over variants on which side of crazy the enemy may help to divide and conquer us–only God knows the true trajectory. But the way I see it is it neither A or B but C. But for another time. However, the source research i do in political science sway greatly in Trump’s favor to win. So if true, we probably have two to three weeks to prepare how that lands in our theology. But I am a full on cessationist…only God knows. Blessings to you Gigi.

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Thanks for sharing Rene. Wow…that is like being in the movie the omen or something. Or like cultish Rosemary’s Baby…How disheartening. First i want to say, my heart is with you. I feel, really, where you are coming from. And church should NEVER be like that :(. wow. When I first started out in my twenties at a mega church, it kind of reminded me of high school. The people were upper class and excellent biblical skill, but there was a sense of celebrity worship or favoritism. It was annoying. That was a while back. But if I saw pastors change like you described, I would be so freaked out.

Later though I got caught up in a Calvinist church. I really did not know a difference. Not bashing here, some of my closest friends are Calvinists…but i felt like i was in a chilling thriller as I realized differences and how those differences played out in their ministry philosophy. It was, to borrow your word…“chilling.” I still have some recovering to do…not everyone reacts the same to varying teachings…mine was bad. Which does kind of segue into your experience.

I would say though that from what I have experienced, it is the end times. I would imagine the church to be Laodicean in those (these) days…including many pastors. I would have to say though, respectfully that the onus is actually on the pastors. For goodness sake, Proverbs alone should have weaned them from those tendencies. I would not fault a president of the united states, Trump or other. I totally understand how creepy the effect of a man in office can be though. The days are evil. Being less trusting of pastors is not totally a bad thing in an end time church though i would think.

We have celebrity in the church…equally evil if not more from what I have seen. We know the good and faithful pastors that are still around. The church is in a major battle. I can address other aspects of how i do believe the church is to be aware of Trump. Not in the same as you might see in effect…but other reasons. However, also in somewhat defenses of some churches, Christians have not had a president support them in anyone’s lifetime–there is an understanding of it happening in part like that too…a culture shock and not sure how to deal with that being deprived of real public support…well in
America, in any case (and add to that the major leftist swing the world is churning in).

I will check another of your posts for further comment. Thanks, and God bless.

Thank you. I love your 3 peaks analogy. In our diversity of opinion it is wise to strive for unity. Amen.

That sounds like the church was performing for Saturday Night Live. How horrid. Like they were a dominion church and need you to understand that Haman was to be praised like they should be. And that Mordecai was a punk because he did not go along with pomp. Or they feel they are the real Israel and are jealous. Haman was from the Agagite. Descendant of Agag people who hated and wanted to kill the Jews. Glad you were to turn a negative into a positive and learned a lot about the bible. :slight_smile:

The thing about Trump and your church experience I just wanted to ad is that I genuinely do sense from 4 year research that he is a super strong candidate for the white horse 1st seal. In case he might be (and I don’t see that as antichrist, but an apocalyptical force to judge evil government and make the world prosperous for a short time–perhaps our last and grand finale version of a gospel outreach), I think that could mean a lot of things for the church, and might actually explain the mixed takes within the church. Though pastors might be weak and feel needy to matter more politically and socially, that would not surprise me as a result. If you have a time where there is the Laodicean church meets a worldly Wiseman player…that would likely happen across the board–what you see happened with some pastors.

The way i see it he is he is like a caricature of worldly alpha “male-ism.” Is he not? Rich, womanizer, playboy, crude, prideful, etc. BUT, in this case…possibly “supercharged” apocalyptically. If that is the math equation the world is confronting…well…it would best not be understood from a “bad president man” perspective. But possibly like this: This is the pinnacle of the most powerful nation ever in the world, to have a leader who is the wordily pinnacle of that nation (including porn stars). And, right up served in our faces. But not as a threat, but an advantage. Like we may not like or want to accept certain customs in the world where strong body odor is understood as masculine. Or belching after a meal as a compliment. But like that kind of masculinity…but apocalyptically so.

That registers most differently to me than antichrist. Trump seems more like Gomer Pile or Forest Gump on super masculine steroids and street smarts. That just makes him the ultimate gamer. Which i think describes the white horse. The antichrist will want worship and want to take the place of God. Trump just wants to be in the history books as the best and baddest president the world has known. Like antichrist softball. But seems to follow a pattern of an architype that has nothing to do with antichrist, Cyrus (not a believer and a rugged warrior that rescued Israel–called God’s shepherd 100 years before he was born–Isaiah 45…like Trump’s presidency number). Many people see this as prophetic: Amazon.com. Written 50 years before Trump was born. There are many correlations in this book to Trump in his context as president. It is rather hair standing up on the back of your neck-ish. I would chalk that up perhaps to God’s sense of humor. Like Cyrus, like Trump (at least that is what Israel called him).

In that scenario, he would be basically rambo in a shoebox. Because of God’s power, not Trump’s pride. I am merely talking about architypes. If Trump does take out evil government like the globalists, it doesn’t make him antichrist, or what NAR sees him as an emperor bringing on the 1,000 year reign of Christ after some grand great awakening. If he is the white horse, he is the trigger mechanism for the tribulation not the 1,000 year reign. The world is confused. Trump as a alpha player would have to have access to strategy and technology. Beyond what is at his fingertips as president, his uncle John Trump was an MIT genius that cracked the codes of Tesla for the military. Which means the Trump family probably has technology the rest of the world does not. Now that reminds me of a billionaire batman like story. Again, architype. I think he means good for the country because God wants it. Not because he pride thinks it. That would take a warrior, not necessarily a church friendly politician. Yet he is…its just too much B.O. for pastors not to become intoxicated in hopes of being a part of an American masculinity legend (or so America thinks–especially as liberalism emasculates and feminizers men…it takes a toll on a nation…unfortunately…that toll seeks to be made up in–“I belong with the alpha superstars” desperately tempted thinking by pastors under America’s pink umbrella).

Ok, I know this is not like reading a psalm. But if that is what is going down, we can be really grateful to God that as the tribulation possibly opens, we are blessed with a huge character display of God thumping evil right in front of our faces, saving our country from socialism, and kicking off the tribulation football so there is no room to genuinely see Trump as a savior…but rather…an usher. Still, it’d be good for the country. Hope this makes some sense. I realize it is unorthodox. Why is it no one can peg him? Would not the first horse be a surprise? I could be totally wrong…but if I am right…then he is teed up perfectly. Ready to take down massive voter fraud with what General Flynn’s attorney calls…the kraken. If he’s the white horse, he’ll have a Kraken in his back pocket. We got front row seats. If not, we gotta deal with Joe as we all prepare to lock down for the winter :(. And wake up to a wonderful Spring socialist America. But that is not so bad, it would help us properly all the more yearn to leave because it would become completely clear…this is not our home. Amen. God bless…thanks for putting up with all the writing. :slight_smile:

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Thanks Rene, i did not see this before my last post to you. There is a lot of really good points potentially…depending how the next few weeks go. But regardless…a church should never trade what the spirit desires to do with what maga wants. That kind of explains my first church experience…this is America. Glad you are blessed…stay so…and enjoy the movie…lol…i mean my next post…its kinda graphic like a movie. Blessings dear lady and sister.

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Pastor JD, After listening to your prophecy update two weeks ago I prayed for you(that wasn’t my first time praying for you) to stay strong in regards to your thoughts on where our focus should be.

I was pleasantly surprised listening to your recent update because not only did you not detour, you went into more detail. As you can see by the comments under your YouTube video for this update, your viewpoint on this isn’t a popular one. It reminds me of the reaction from your video about the Q movement. I’ll continue keeping you in prayer.

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I’m not American, or in the US but watching with interest.
Re Trump - he reminds me of King David.
David wouldn’t be “on my Christmas card list” either. His behaviour was not good, but God used him and it seems to me that God has used DJ Trump. The man is just a Man, after all.
The recent election has exposed massive corruption and caused everyone to doubt and question. Just shows how Evil is unashamed and everywhere right now.
Similarly the NAR “churches”. We have them here too, and though they look and sound good it doesn’t take much brain to realise they are not teaching Biblical Christianity - they are “tickling ears”!
The closure of churches might be sorting the Christians from the Churchgoers. As in the days of Noah…?
We do need to stand for what is right, true and honest, and expect to be unpopular, ridiculed and persecuted for doing so. Which says to me - Soon and Very Soon We are going to see our King Jesus!

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This is such an interesting take, one I have never heard before. I am going to research a little more about it but thank you for sharing it! Do you have any more references or information about this?

The talking donkey would be the funniest answer, but what is yours? I am not in love with Trump but am a staunch supporter of his pro-life and pro-Israel tendencies. Please expound!

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I agree. The Sunday before the election, I watched the Update. Afterwards as I was praying I knew Pastor JD was right. So when Election Day arrived, I wasn’t surprised. I am thankful that Trump is the most pro life President ever. However, his embrace of the LGBQT community, and his Pride events troubled me. I don’t believe he will serve a second term. I do believe he was there for Israel. To set things in place for what is coming. The only one who can help us is Our Father God.

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Dear Brothers and Sisters,

Another fantastic prophecy update by Pastor JD. I was also bummed out but taking a step back, I realized it did not matter. These elections were a win/win situation! Why? because of Jesus Christ and his kingdom to come.

A couple of points worth remembering or discussing on:

  • NAR are fighting for this kingdom but as in John 18:36 Jesus says : “My kingdom is not of this world (…).” We all know whose kingdom it is, right? 2 Cor 4:4 "Satan, who is the god of this world (…). Thus, we know by whom NAR want this world to be ruled!

  • Whomever president, who cares? God will use whomever he pleases.

  • Lastly, WE MUST LOVE! Anger is not of God, hate is not of God. Pastor Jon Courson preached that we must not throw a spear to our enemies out of anger for we will end up throwing a spear at beloved ones just like Saul did to his beloved son Jonathan out of hatred for David: The Real Election! - 2 Peter 1:10 - Jon Courson - YouTube

Remember God is in TOTAL control!
God bless you all

“We must love everybody or we will end up loving nobody!”
- Pastor Jon Courson

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God bless you JD! I have been following you since 2009! I share all your info and now many others watch your updates and sermons.

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Ok, this is a brilliant hypothesis!! Not one I have ever read before and certainly “out there” but very digestible! I do hope you are right. Super Gomer is in the just-right position to do all you have said, that is true! I think our shoe-box Rambo is perfectly positioned to expose and (maybe) take down the kraken, but as you said, he is no more than a tool, that trigger, and nothing more. God has used all sorts of “tools” throughout the Bible! Why not! And the thought of Joe, lockdowns, socialism, ugh! I know this is not our home, and I pray for the safety of the persecuted saints all around the world, but I still think praying for life and justice in our country and our alliance with Israel isn’t a bad thing!

Thank you for your voice on this subject. You are spot on. As of late, I have these ever so nagging questions. I welcome anyone who can set me straight. The questions revolve around these. And let me be honest here. I did not cast my vote for Biden. I voted in which I believed were Christ centered values. But…I did so with the feeling that Trump left me with more questions than answers. Why did he not invoke the insurrection act when we were plagued with evil in our streets? Whatever happened to treason in America? Why do we do nothing when people talk so evil of our president? Why have we been defunding the police? Why have we allowed George Soros ( a known terrorist ) to maintain a US citizenship? I could go on and on. I realized long ago that evil would come but I believe Trump could have responded if there was a will to do so in spite of the left.
In spite of all these questions, I am crossing my fingers for four more years. Something about salt and light on my part until our Lord Jesus comes. I can hope for improvements no?
And the matter of vaccines… well I have listened to a very well thought of pastor in Israel stating in a video lately that he was ok with a Covid - 19 vaccine so he could preach around the world. My question to him was…if you knew the the vaccine contained fetal-tissue and or DNA altering properties would it still be ok? I got no answer. Am I just being picky or discerning? I will rely on my brothers and sisters for answers.
Pastor JD is my go to guy. He stands 10 feet tall. I will await future talks that may answer some of my questions. But until then …You seem to have it all together so I am picking on you…You don’t have to respond if I have overstepped.

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Dear Jim. You are so right. Here in Australia, our Christian Prime Minister, said, a while ago, that he would not be against mandating all Australians to receive the vaccine. I was shocked, because this man is supposed to be on our side. I realized that evil is showing its face clearer and that, as stated in my post above, we are sifted more and more out of the grey areas into the area of light or that of dark. So, I keep looking up, because our redemption is drawing near and one day soon, we will have the only perfectly just and perfectly righteous Leader, ruling and reigning over the entire world. He is our Hope and our Strong Tower. Come LORD Jesus, Come.

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I thought the message was simple & not that complex, I agree with him, eternal lives matter the most right now, that’s what I got out of it, more on the where & what is your focus on is how I see it…We all feel were about to get that dreaded knock at the door with military presence for that extra fear factor some day soon: It’s hard to see this slowing down when they have sunk their teeth in deep; in every country, if it doesn’t go away But God… If it does But God…

Amen & amen

God is Good, the is second possible hymn for the song Pastor JD mentioned in this sermon:

TAKE THE WORLD, BUT GIVE ME JESUS

Words: [Fan­ny Cros­by], 1879.

Music: Abruz­zo [John R. Swe­ney]

Fanny was talk­ing to one of her neigh­bors, who comp­lained bit­ter­ly of his po­ver­ty. If I had wealth I would be able to do just what I wish to do; and I would be able to make an ap­pearance in the world. Fan­ny re­plied, Well, take the world, but give me Je­sus. She was here in­spired by her own words to write a hymn with that ti­tle.

Ruffin, p. 142

Take the world, but give me Jesus,
All its joys are but a name;
But His love abideth ever,
Through eternal years the same.

Refrain

Oh, the height and depth of mercy!
Oh, the length and breadth of love!
Oh, the fullness of redemption,
Pledge of endless life above!

Take the world, but give me Jesus,
Sweetest comfort of my soul;
With my Savior watching o’er me,
I can sing though billows roll.

Refrain

Take the world, but give me Jesus,
Let me view His constant smile;
Then throughout my pilgrim journey
Light will cheer me all the while.

Refrain

Take the world, but give me Jesus.
In His cross my trust shall be,
Till, with clearer, brighter vision,
Face to face my Lord I see.

Refrain

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