I agree with you about the deception. I keep saying over and over that we are living in the age of deception. It’s palatable. Including what is going on at the Asbury “Revival.” My heart grieves over the body of Christ that such large numbers have the inability or unwillingness to seek the truth, to test the spirits, to search the Word to see if these things be true.
Ephesians 6:11 - Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Oh i love that hymn thanks for the teminder
Hi Paula,
Can you please share the link or the name of that book you’re reading…
God bless
Maybe its new glasses, but wow, Pastor JD looks really good. I really feel his heart toward this generation and his passion in Christ against such a wayward culture. My conversion experience was similar to Pastor JD’s. I said a prayer after partying and staying the night at my drug dealers apartment. Next day woke up different. I can see now why Pastor JD emphasizes deception as his conversion first noticed how real evil in our world is. Bless his heart.
I just had 2 brief comments on todays update. With Damar’s interview, he is clearly subjecting himself to the culture, very sad. As for his jacket, well, I would just see that as coming from the world of abstract art that purposes to transform culture by aim. It did not seem Damar had any idea it would cause a stir. Gen Z (as we see in his pause in the interview) is under quite a bit of dogpiled worldly ideology today. Helping to get through to this generation is quite a challenge for our day, amen.
Which leads me to HeGetsUs. Honesty, guys, personally (especially in light of the lateness of the hour and likely soon rapture), the website does steer people toward reading the bible. And the accessible online host is Life Church. Accessible from the HeGetsUs platform: Here are the easily accessible statements of belief:
Jesus is the Son of God.
He is coequal with the Father and Holy Spirit. Jesus lived a sinless human life and offered Himself as the perfect sacrifice for the sins of all people by dying on a cross. He arose from the dead after three days to demonstrate His power over sin and death. He ascended to Heaven and will return again someday to earth to reign as King.
Salvation is God’s free gift to us, but we must accept it.
We can never make up for our sin by self-improvement or good works. Only by trusting in Jesus Christ as God’s offer of forgiveness can anyone be saved from sin’s penalty. When we turn from our self-ruled life and turn to Jesus in faith we are saved. Eternal life begins the moment one receives Jesus Christ into his life by faith.
Romans 6:23
Ephesians 2:8-9
John 14:6
Romans 5:1, 5:8, 10:9-10
The Bible is God’s Word to us.
The Bible was written by human authors, under the supernatural guidance of the Holy Spirit. It is the supreme source of truth for Christian beliefs about living. Because it is inspired by God, it is truth without error.
2 Timothy 3:16
2 Peter 1:20-21
Psalm 119:105, 160, 12:6
Proverbs 30:5
Isaiah 55:11
. . . . .
Although having a healthy concern in keeping doctrine pure, amen, if Gen Z finds Christ through a lead -in (which is all i think the HeGetsUs videos are–like teasers for the hard cases that would not come the conventional way), the Jesus they encounter in the word and His spirit is the real Jesus. I understand the concern of messages in public. But what i see is $6 million spent for 30 seconds to cast a net using mammon that may bring people to inquire more about Christ. I would compare it to if when Paul said to Mars Hill, “To an Unknown God?” Mike drop. And then the Athens being so studious would jump online to ask, “So what about that one?” If we believe it is truly the last hour, is it not better that thousands share in our Blessed Hope than waiting for the time it takes the church to best relate with Gen Z leaving most of them here for the tribulation? Perhaps $6 million for 30 seconds might be a providential wink also provided to us and our culture in the extreme lateness of the hour? Luke 16:1-15.
Otherwise blessed and encouraged by Pastor JD’s lovely childlike heart toward our great savior. And encouragement to drive us more toward the first love found in scripture far exceeding any superbowl ad, amen. AMEN!!! Blessings.
My Utmost for His Highest, by Oswald Chambers
From the ‘He Gets Us’ website > About Us
Red f.lags
This all started with a diverse
Be assured, though, that we’re not “left” or “right” or a political organization of any kind. We’re also not affiliated with any particular church or denomination. We simply want everyone to understand the authentic Jesus as he’s [lower case noted] depicted in the Bible — the Jesus of radical
It wouldn’t be hard to guess that we’re led by Jesus fans and followers
Our hope
We are also about sharing Jesus’ openness to people that others might have excluded. His message went out to all. And though you may see religious
Ultimately, we want people to know his teachings and how he lived while here on Earth [ahem…how about how He died on Earth as the ultimate unblemished sacrifice? Anything on that… no?..ok]. And this will be a starting point to understanding him and his message [still no mention of God’s Word]. Though we believe he was what Christians call
Now, bear with us as we use some official language for those who care about this stuff. He Gets Us is an initiative of Servant Foundation, a designated 501(c)(3) organization with a 100/100 Charity Navigator rating.
All that reads so wonderfully that I almost overlooked the Gospel message so conspicuously absent from the foregoing:
3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,
1 Cor 15
The varsity jacket that Hamlin wore was from a collaboration between rapper Travis Scott and artist Takashi Murakami by brand Saint Michael. One side of the front has the message “Without end or beginning, there is no day and there is no night.”
The other side has a face of a Christ-like figure wearing a crown of thorns. The face is the same design as a chain that Murakami made for Scott. Murakami, who is known for his bright colors and abstract figures, has also designed cover art for rapper Kanye West and, in October, did a clothing collaboration with Formula 1 driver Lewis Hamilton.
The back of Hamlin’s jacket said “Eternal” and has a paper doll figure being crucified.
As JD said…another Jesus!
Very expensive suit USD6500, some more so fast exited from ICU…
He also quoted and misapply this verse:
He also referenced Matthew 7:1-5, which is a sermon from Jesus Christ about not judging others.
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged," the scripture said, in part. “For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
Remember the world hates Jesus Christ.
A taste of his preaching if you want:
Distraction #3 - Money and Possessions
Here are the lyrics:Dean Wareham & Britta Phillips – The Cloud Is Coming Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
Yes,
I saw them.
Just strange the whole scenario
Great to see you brother. I hope all is well or improving greatly. I know we have all missed you a lot. And we find no shortage of your vintage passion, precision, and wit this day, amen. I would not view this group as a gospel approach model to follow. Nor would I suggest it is pristine in forthright doctrine. In some ways it does appear to be somewhat of a throwback to the emerging church concepts of an ongoing “conversation” in contrast to weighty real and solid doctrine. Understood.
While I was in the nursey ministry of a huge doctrinal heavy church, the leadership wanted to put together a light teaching plan to engage the kids we were watching during the worship hour. Having done so we were met with quite a very very young group of children where it was clear would not process near at all to the level we aimed. Albeit, this should not be reason in any way to use seeker friendly outreach models, like Hillsong (and even still never get to the deep doctrines to help people understand initially more comprehensively and assist believers to grow), in our missional culture of postmodernism afraid to have opinion or spooked to have conviction, wokeness, transgendered ideology foisted upon children, critical race theory and taking education by critical race theory and cancel culture storm, as well as making Marxism seem palatable, noble, and empathetic, it might not be completely untenable to take to account that much of our mission field today has drastically shifted from foundational norms of the country we grew up in. In some ways, HeGetsUs would appear to attempt to meet an ideologically trampled culture with what helps move them, as Pastor JD says, “One step closer to Christ.”
No doubt we do not want to support diluted efforts in promoting the gospel (or while so doing…avoiding the gospel), nor partner with normalizing dissociation from scripture while pretending to be about it (any more certainly than it has already occurred within big Eva–a train-wreck). And to that i would see it noble to take issue with such clothes some wear and certainly such public messages that border eisegetizing Christ. Amen. However, I would believe it also wise too for the church recognizing the state at which she might appear to the world at this late hour into consideration and (without compromise) perhaps even learn how to best reach Gen Z and Gen Alpha from this kind of event of advertising that brings much dialogue to the table. When Jesus confronted the rich young ruler, He targeted the issue where that man would rely on his own sense of rightness before God in contrast to Christ. HeGetsUs, to me, seems to be an attempt at allowing people an opportunity to remove some measure of cultural blinders placed upon them. Perhaps in hopes at being at a place more likely receptive to scripture.
If it is as late as we think and this is the last year for the church on earth, running with Paul’s Phil 1:15-18 concern, that it is good that Jesus is preached, perhaps there might be something said of that today too.
ISSUES FACING PAUL’S DAY
And yet, Paul in that context (much more wild lands than ours) affirmed that at least Christ was being preached. And in so much as we might not agree upon how our views of all that is necessarily protection of doctrine challenged today, the notice that we not even consider at all today those aforementioned bullet points, for me, would cause pause in if the tension we hold today regarding the protection of doctrine is as informed as it could be when looking at such matters. What the spirit might do with far less church approved methods could be opportunities too. Especially in light of taking into consideration how well evangelicalism is doing with genuinely reaching Gen Z etc., if what Gen Z mostly sees is the church being critical of them. We would not look at Pastor JD’s encouragement to bring people one step closer to Christ as seeker friendly. I applaud that merciful and wise heart. I understand that we should not make all of gospel presentation a mere leading one step closer to Christ approach. Granted. From what I have seen we live in age of seeker friendly churches and authoritarian churches. I line up much more with authoritarian. But from what i have seen in that with my own experience over decades is Protestantism kind of having borrowed smoother application of Romish Catholic imperialistic style rule. Kind of like how fascism is socialism with a human smiley face. I’ve seen the ills of seeker friendly. And i’ve experienced the ills of authoritarianism. Neither is exactly biblical. We may not agree upon this, but we do see quite a whacked church at large today. And taking a breath and just getting a sense of what this might translate like to our mission field, I think empathizing with the mission field is not compromise. We may not agree.
As an example GCC is about to have another Shepherds conference. I recall several years back one of the pastors from GCC saw the culture as goliath and the church as David. This is perhaps somewhat subtle or not so subtle, but Christ saw it as the harvest or a field of mission in contrast. Today there is a cultural tendency within the church i believe to conquer the culture. Which of course brought to its ultimate conclusion would mirror dominionism or kingdom now perspective. I don’t believe critiquing HeGetsUs is dominion theological. But what my point is, so how are we reaching Gen Z? Perhaps prophecy updates helps, amen. They are interesting and intriguing. But we really have no plan in place in general (speaking of evangelicalism) to reach them (aside seemingly from the seeker friendly types). And while we ponder how to, many die every day or become increasingly hardened by world. Can’t it at least be understood though on some level that at least millions were exposed to check out Christ related to some measure of biblical accuracy? And we want to make our spiritual lives adverse to that? When the rapture might be this year? Those just don’t exactly add up for me.
I am also for doctrinal clarity and have pretty much argued for it all my life (holding to account even the discernment ministries where they seem well to go astray). I would say 70% of all my conversations have to do with that. So i understand the hotness about not wanting to let the world distort the gospel or the image of Christ. Amen. I totally get a right heart in ministry defending the faith. Amen. But are we looking at how to help Gen Z with their hangups about the church (in an age gone rogue in the world and in the church)? Would we know how to as people in general help souls be led out of the quagmire of their own heart, or just label them like that because its easier that we might feel better landing on holy ground? This kind of troubles me. And is a genuine concern. Matthew 9
12 On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
Maybe its not altogether unreasonable as to how this can play out in our age is all I’m saying. Hope that makes sense. Blessings.
Well dear brother , I guess you could ask that of all the ages… how to get generation x, y, z ‘s etc attention . The Bible answers it-
Truth in love
Give others the reason for your hope
Be kind, gentle and respectful to all
Basically we have a how to. We just keep wanting to apply man’s wisdom to this and reach people in creative ways which end up twisting and misusing Gods Word.
How do we do it? Be obedient and share the Gospel - the bad news and good news with everyone , praying for Gods intervention on their lives. Serve them when possible, love them and share the Gospel. That’s it. Nothing new- stick to the way that was created and follow His ways.
I thought the YouVersion is a new Bible version: but it said its an app.
Who are the translators? Using which manuscript?
Life.Church (pronounced “Life Church”, formerly known as LifeChurch.tv, Life Covenant Church, and Life Church) is an American evangelical multi-site church based in Edmond, Oklahoma. Craig Groeschel is the founder and senior pastor of Life.Church. Weekly church attendance was 85,000 people in 2018. The church is known for its YouVersion ministry, which publishes the Bible App.
Anyone got idea on this church and pastor?
You version is just a Bible app. Lots of Bible translations & many languages. Kind of like Blue Letter Bible. I use both apps.
The You version one I use for daily Bible reading - my plans are: proverbs in 1 month, psalms over 3 months, this year I’m reading Bible chronologically.
Often I use the audio reading function when walking, or folding laundry etc. Or when needing to focus or hear reading on a complex passage,
NOTE: I use my BLB app for more in depth study- strongs concordance, comparing verses in various translations, commentaries etc
I used my preferred NASB 95 for You version daily readings. I only have NASB 95 downloaded (limited phone storage). But have several on my tablet. Oh, I also create & save images with favorite verses in You Version app.
Search functionality is good & helpful & handy on both mobile apps. Still love & use my big old study Bible with notes!
Yes, YouVersion is a Bible app with many Bible translations available to choose from. But it also has many plans and studies by false teachers.
Here’s what I just dug up.
Craig Groeschel’s website.
Life.Church website.
From the above link:
"Wherever you are in life, you matter and you have a purpose. We want to help you become the person God has created you to be. Your journey has a next step and we’ll help you find it. It could start with serving, finding God’s vision for your life, giving, or joining us regularly.
You don’t have to take the next step alone. With a strong community of friends, you can laugh, grow, and serve with people who genuinely care about you. Find a small group, or LifeGroup, to join you on your journey."
From the above link:
“If you didn’t know, YouVersion The Bible App is a product of Prosperity gospel church Life.Church (formerly LifeChurch.tv).
They definitely have not been totally free of having the material of false teachers on their app (Joyce Meyer, to name one,) but they have now included material from Bill Johnson himself.
While the Bible App is a very user friendly and free Bible App, there are plenty of others out there that do not propagate false teachers and their false doctrine.”
Screenshot from the above link:
Screenshot from the above link:
Plans and devotionals etc. from the YouVersion app:
“He Gets Us”
Bethel/Bill Johnson/Sean Feucht
Joyce Meyer
Joel Osteen
Jesus Culture
Oh …My…Goodness
So much Apostasy…Makes you go Hummmm.
Just like the Word of God said it would be. Maranatha
Harpazo eminent.
Do not use “devotional”plans. Do not trust ANY of that devotional fluff stuff, by anyone. I stick with basic Bible - verse by verse reading.
Been using free you version app for reading aloud since ~ 2010. Been more important for Bible audio app available on speaker as my vision & hearing continues to deteriorate.
Guess I should look for another source for free online Bible audio app with my NASB 95 version that I prefer to listen to.
Edit: Blue Letter Bible app has audio Bible reading feature — hooray! - BLB has been a helpful study resource for me on my pc/laptop since 2004 (& now mobile!)
