Interesting discussion @BayouBushi and @channah. In 2017 I thought Trump was the Antichirst (666 building in New York, Appollos g o d on his ceiling, 6x6x6 rowes in the Trump tower hanging garden). Around 2018 the notion of a 1st seal being different than our cultural moment would see it as, came to be a consideration. It was at that time I shared that with a lady (lets call her Sam) friend I knew from my former reformed church experience of 2.5 decades.
She believed via pastor Macarthur that the AC willl be the 12th Imam, Madhi. I tried to share with her some different ways to consider lookinig at the 1st seal. She was open but of course skeptical. A mutual friend of ours from the same church (lets call her Luv) had a Christian facebook page she never invited her unbelieving coworkers to before, but one day did. Within hours Sam ran one of Luv’s unbellieving coworkers down hard. Blowing up from learning this coworker believed in Islam and a young BLM supporter. When that occured, it kind of shut down all the sharing that was going on in an otherwise friendly “getting to know people” environment and hope for Luv inviting her unbelieving coworkers to her christian facebook page for a meet and greet.
Within weeks from that time, Sam was slamming everyone who didn’t believe Qanon logic of gitmo. It was kind of freaky to witness. I never shared Qanon stuff with her, as I would have seen Q differently even back then. It seemed that same gullible kind of trust muscles she believed the AC to be about from her pastor also exercised itself in Qanon. Ironically stepping right over my whole Trump as the 1st seal thing…lol, I felt left for dead (as though i was not even in the room)…lol.
To me it was clear from the start that if Q was anything, it was not how people were looking at it. Because in the first month Q was posting he predicted Hillary arrest on Oct 31st. That never happened. So from there, to believe other dates and times seemed to not be something anyone should consider to do.
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@BayouBushi I wanted to ask you on this sort of thing (because the way i would view Q is psychological warfare potentially…maybe China? Like Tik Tok version of warfare?). Since you have experience and connections in the military, do you know peeps from the army psyop division? I have seen some of their lengthy interview videos. The whole field is rather fascinating. Just thought to pick your brain there Jack, because you nailed it when i asked about a short video of aircraft manuever using flares as deflecting heat seeking missiles while most would just see it as an air show kind of thing.
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As for the quote, its funny it is also stated in like the third comment to this recruitment trailer. I believe Mark Twain said similar things but not that exact quote:
It’s Easier To Fool People Than To Convince Them That They’ve Been Fooled – Quote Investigator®
What Mark Twain stated about Palestine in the 1800s is well known. But he did have some interesting views beyond that on the Jews i was not so aware of (almost like he thought deeply upon such weighty prophecy to unfold…yet not being a believer)…
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@channah there is actually a way to see Q affirming JFK is alive from posts (whereas most of the interpretations of Q’s response was understood to be “no” he was not). I would admit to being intriqued. As I have little trouble dissociating my views from America ends, the beast system rules type mentality in the watcher world (views i used to hold), I would have no trouble seeing the whole JFK thing going a bit too far. But i do admit to believing its potential espcially with their bodies not being discovered from the crash and John’s affiliation to George Magazine. Some fascinating corollaries. After 2020, i didn’t really care. It was all getting a bit much to gain traction on what things might be about.
In general just for the record since in general i would sense to a degree we (in general) have as much bias affirming what Q is not as those might who affirm it as something to take their focus off the word of God, very sad, I would see it as 2 things:
(a) a form of psyop warfare – I believe going from Q to Hagelian Dialectic is just repeating the same mistake…on either front…we outsource our sense making. I don’t believe either extreme to be healthy, in my humble estimation.
(b) Camaflouge for the 1st seal Because meanwhile while many of us are appalled at the level of Trump worship on the rise, if sociopolitical movements (general revelation) play into Ez 38 falling into place agendas…it would make more sense to me to take a heads up from all the “Trump” noise more so than rushing on either side to have opinions about it.
I just think that to believe America would have absolutely 0 resolve to fight against globalism and 0 reality beyond it being theater, is (1) a bit niave that there would be no real or solid interest to protect the greatest constitution the world has ever known (outside of Israel’s theocracy), and (2) how could we so easily with such confidence rule out psychological warfare rather than the church turning it into a whole theater itself of false light? To me, those are the same extremes (or perhaps the church’s inside scoop version of its own Q clearance sensibilities): Trump Saves the World vs False Light trust the church more than general revelation. I see them as either extremes on how to outsource our own sense making. I just find it odd, that the thought that God might use good in His last days of grace is forbidden by the church. To me, that is far more suspect than nationalism vs globalism playing naturally out in general revelation upon the world stage thematically. I just state in this way because it blows my mind that it would appear the thinking church to favor tribal conquer and divdie sides approach (if America wan’ts to protect herself its vain glory of the temporal vs. how the church alternatively sees it) rather than reasoning together approaches. That would be a vary hard place to come to admit being dupped in if true (that the church is capable of running game on its own Q clearance sense to the public…I.e. watcher views vs. general revelation unfolding views). And if not, i am very much present as the Lord may have me to confess heartily there is no such thing as people of a country wanting safer neighborhoods for their kids and it not be a church taboo thing. Blessings