I guess I should have ended my post adding that these people are not pointing people to Christ, they are pointing them to humans / human solutions. They is the biggest red flag.
The more I think about it, they seem to be worshipping a different god. The god they created in their image. We are not talking about the same Lord at all with these folks. Just like with Catholicism, , and this New Age group (which I think is what Pastor Jd may have referred to these folks as) we don’t have the same god.
I appreciate all the work they are trying to do, but it’s all in their own effort , all a delusion and I feel a heartfelt sadness for them. As our pastor said they are the mission field (I think he said) as the false light and so is the other side of that coin, the darkness.