October 29, 2023: Bible Prophecy Update – The Truth In Love

Stacey, my dad was a medic in WWII. He passed at 94 years of age. He would have been a year younger than Mr. Lawrence. Please thank him for his service for me.
He said that he was a Christain.
Am I understanding that his son is not yet saved, or that he is but drinks? Please, also tell him that I will call out to God for him. Maybe others will join us so that a soul will be saved, and Mr. Lawrence can have the blessed peace of Jesus.



That’s what the Scripture says, not me.

Thanks Kathryn,

He has 2 sons, Ryan knows Jesus and Larry is the one who drinks, he doesn’t know for sure about his salvation, he thinks he knows Jesus.


Oh, yes, Anca. We may joke about not worrying anymore about our weight, bad backs and knees, or to have hair again, but truly, this is our desire - to be with Jesus forever. Amen



Yes, we joke about many things… God has a sense of humor, and we are His children:)

I often think of Lot…

How the apostle Peter calls him “righteous Lot”, and yet, from what we read in Genesis about him, Lot was so far from perfect… I wonder why didn’t he move back with his uncle???
BUT Lot had faith in God, so Peter calls him righteous.

And not just the above aspect about Lot, but the other part where he was oppressed by the evil conduct of the world surrounding him.

We are in the same situation these days, so much evil in the world…

Nothing is getting better on this earth…

But ONE DAY, our Lord will come for us and that will be the end of any kind of evil for His Bride. I think, because the stakes are so high, and the enemy has such little time left to hurt and accuse us, we experience so many battles, on so many different fronts…

Dear Lord, help all of us, please :pray: You are all we have. Our hope is only in You.

P. S. The verses I had in mind…

“and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men (for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds),”

‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2‬:‭7‬-‭8‬


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I understand Dan there is more going on in the back and forth with you guys than I might have not caught. At certain specific highlight points though I would notice a few things. I understand your desire to sharpen.

From how Pete has recently been posting it looks like he leans toward Christian perfectionism. Which would explain perhaps some blinders on more charitable nuances of where others might be coming from. This would make for difficult discussion. Blessings.


I am sure many more are aware of the intense conversations that arise on a forum like this. I am also aware, like myself, they do not want to join the conversation but just pray for those who are involved to come together for the sake of the Body of Christ. I haven’t seen any malice or deceit, but only the Lord knows the intent of the heart. I don’t respond or join in the conversations many times because some here are more knowledgeable and some very strong in their belief that it you don’t see any tender care in the delivery of those beliefs. This forum seems to swing either all the way one way or the other. Never middle ground, as I see it. I am sure some won’t agree with me and that is o.k., but I know that I have grown spiritually when care and discernment are used when sharing an opinion or belief. Isn’t that how we are to be? Just a thought and not speaking to anyone specifically.


Amen. I come from a rather fundamentalist background and it can be overtly “in your face” lol. And this is an epidemic like today of sorts. There are also non-fundamentalist environments that still place a very high premium on certaom doctrines or escatological views. We live in a time where to a dedgree that is understandable. And in places perhaps even helpful given the context. But I agree that middle ground "empathy’ is a good starting point. Not that our convictions are middle ground, but that our hearts are centered in and on Christ as we discourse the variations. Blessings dear sister :+1:


So well said, dear Teren. I know personally that my “pride” in what I believe is right comes across to others and it can hurt; even kill someone spiritually. I have gained so much from you and everyone on this forum; each in different ways. I am happy to call you each my family and we need each other, I hope. Blessings right back at you, bro!


PRIDE. He borrowed it from me…lol!


And he is all we need.
Praise the Lord for all He does known and unknown.


Amen, brother :pray:.

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“This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance,

that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.”

‭‭I Timothy‬ ‭1‬:‭15‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Thank God for His grace towards us, without Jesus we would all die in our pride.


Rom 8, 9-10 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Gal 2, 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Joh 1, 11-13 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

1Jn 5, 18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Mat 3, 11-12 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.


Who is who John speaking to? And are you saying believers will not or can not sin? If so I posted these scriptures if not they may still relevant.

Paul is speaking to us in this age of grace.
Context: Addressed to Sinners
Dead to Sin, Alive to God
Romans 6
…5For if we have been united with Him like this in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection. 6We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin. 7For anyone who has died has been freed from sin.…

Context: Paul to the Gentiles and to any Jew that would accept it
Struggling with Sin

Romans 7
…19For I do not do the good I want to do. Instead, I keep on doing the evil I do not want to do. 20And if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. 21So this is the principle I have discovered: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me.…

22For in my inner being I delight in God’s law. 23But I see another law at work in my body, warring against the law of my mind and holding me captive to the law of sin that dwells within me. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?…

25Thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with my mind I serve the law of God, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.…

Context: To Believing Sinners waiting to be Glorified.
Romans 6
Dead to Sin, Alive to God
…5For if we have been united with Him like this in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection. 6We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin. 7For anyone who has died has been freed from sin.

We are not finished work if we were then why would we still be here?

If we can’t sin one would think we have been glorified. Spiritually we are not sinners right now on earth Paul seems to say in the flesh we still are.



Giving Thanks in Times of Trouble

By Hal Lindsey

As the Bible describes the days leading up to the Lord’s return, a word pops up over and over again. That word is “trouble.” The seven years of tribulation are known as “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7). But that won’t last. Isaiah 65:16 speaks of the millennium, a time after the tribulation when, “the former troubles are forgotten.”

The world is rapidly being prepared for the tribulation period. Christians are destined to be rescued from the world before the actual hurricane hits, but the outer bands are already kicking up quite a storm.

Whatever your view of the end times, you probably agree that the world is in a particularly troubled state right now. And it looks as though it could get much worse very quickly. I feel for today’s politicians, ordinary men and women trying to stave off chaos even as they watch the house around them rattle, creak, and break.

The Bible has much to say about God’s people in times of trouble. Psalm 9:9-10 says, “The Lord also will be a refuge for the oppressed, A refuge in times of trouble. And those who know Your name will put their trust in You; For You, Lord, have not forsaken those who seek You.”

Do you know His name? That involves knowing Him and the kind of Person He is — that He is ever faithful and ever true. Have you put your trust in Him? This is a good time to renew that trust, to remember who He is, and that you can always count on Him. Psalm 107:1 says, “Oh, give thanks to the Lord, for He is good! For His mercy endures forever.”

Psalm 69:30 says, “I will praise the name of God with a song, And will magnify Him with thanksgiving.” In the United States of America, our ancestors bequeathed many gifts to us — not the least of which is a special day set aside to do exactly what the Psalm says, “magnify Him with thanksgiving.”

Psalm 147:7 says, “Sing to the Lord with thanksgiving.” We sing because our hearts are full when we consider God’s goodness and graciousness to us. But even when our hearts don’t feel full, we sing anyway because His goodness and graciousness are real and true regardless of our mood or circumstance.

Maybe like Martha in Luke 10:41, “You are worried and troubled about many things.” If so, try to be more like her sister Mary. In verse 42, Jesus said, “Mary has chosen that good part, which will not be taken away from her.” Choose the good part, and it will not be taken away from you. Choose thanksgiving. Choose to see the infinite expressions of God’s love for you.

Never forget what Jesus said in John 14:1-3. “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.”

In verse 27 of that chapter, He added this. “Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.”

That’s for you — a gift this Thanksgiving from the Lord of the universe.

The soul of the new creation awaits the new spiritual body it will receive at the rapture. I’m talking about souls filled with faith (“that we should no longer be slaves to sin”).

We know from Scripture that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom. There must be a separation of the soul (blood) and the spirit, because the blood in which the spirit is immersed does not inherit the Kingdom of God, but the spirit is saved. And what’s next? This spirit, in the process of new birth, is first immersed in the Holy Spirit, and then it is filled with the Spirit. We know from the parable of the wise and foolish virgins that the foolish (50%?) did not purchase enough oil in time.

It all depends on what stage of the new birth process the disciple of the Lord is at. It is like the journey of the Israelites from Egypt into Canaan, but spiritual. Although today, those who have broken with sin once and for all and fully believed, fully trusted, have entered into His rest (Heb 4, 1). If looking back (to one’s own justice or old conscience) were not possible, there would be no warnings. Unbelief is sin, and entering rest has a price.

However, these words seem to be addressed to everyone:

Rev 3, 17-19 Because you say, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and noint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

So let us break our hearts before God, let us ask, let us knock while there is still time (“lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.”)


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Is that even possible, that sounds like a work of God, not man. I can see that we should allow our hearts to be broken by the Holy Spirit, Is this what you mean?

The Sabbath Rest
Hebrews 4
…10For whoever enters God’s rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from His. 11Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following the same pattern of disobedience. 12For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it pierces even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It judges the thoughts and intentions of the heart.…

And when we fall short:

Romans 3
Righteousness through Faith
…22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.…