I’m not sure.
I’m just waiting for Spencer’s corrected video of his research on this.
I would recommend Good Fight Ministries which has a couple videos on the Asbury Revival and the Jesus Revolution movie. They were , imo, fair and balanced in their assessment.
I would’ve been more understanding if he had given a disclaimer or something and if he had spoken of the personal choice of seeing it versus actually recommending it so highly.
Something I want to share I believe God is laying on my heart :
I have watched many different Calvary Chapel services and some were wonderful. I was convicted and learned much.
But there are some leaders in the CC that are veering off into concerning territory.
So it’s unfair to throw every CC into the same category. Chuck starting them has resulted in certainty many people getting saved. He is not directly responsible for where some are headed.
Another side note is , I watched a video that although it questioned Chuck’s discernment with Lonnie and Kuhlman and such , it defended his original stance on scriptural teaching in which he seemed extremely biblical and did teach the verse by verse, line by line method.
So I want to clarify that my discussing this movie and the original Jesus Movement is not to throw Chuck and everything regarding him under the bus. But to differentiate the good from the bad and make informed decisions in regards to testing the spirits as the scripture commands.
What I think part of the problem is two fold :
Number one is the desiring of an experience and thus using feelings to try to validate the spiritual.
We know feelings are not always accurate, are fleeting and change. (
Number two is believing there is a separate Holy Spirit anointing from initial salvation. Also a misunderstanding of the workings of the Holy Spirit. This plays into the issues of relying on feelings and the sensationalism of certain church happenings that are not biblical. ( the gold dust, church members shaking/ falling over/ barking, babbling misnamed as speaking in tongues etc)
Both of these have led to a fascination in gullible people with the signs and wonder’s craziness that has replaced good, plain old Bible preaching and reverent hymnal worship. We are in a time of the church age where it has gone from simple to a sort of out of control busyness during services.
@pbandj gave an awesome answer.
I will add my thoughts which align with what has already been said.
You can STRETCH just stay far away from “yoga”.
Stretching is good, yoga is not.
Yoga is a religious system/practice.
I can do the stretches, but I would never set foot in a “yoga” studio again. Nor would I study anything that called itself “yoga”.
Stretching only. 
That’s great!
Part of the lacking if discernment in church goers is that the history and danger of these things are not being taught.
They are pagan yet so many pastors and churches are doing them themselves 
To ignore their historical beginnings and pagan makeup by saying the common “ I just do the exercise part”, or as in the enneagram viewing it as just a personality test denies the danger of both of these.
Our previous pastor and wife who I was great friends with including watching their children did yoga……
I was talking to the pastor when I was helping out at a booth for outreach to the Mormon BYU college students and we started talking about some things. Yoga came up and I mentioned it had pagan roots and he said that he and his wife have done it but not the meditation parts. 
I was then questioning his discernment and had to seek the Lord on some things I was struggling with about this.
These are the type of things Christians need to be taught and warned about, but sadly some of the very ones that should be doing the teaching, need to be taught themselves.
But as mentioned, even alerting them sometimes doesn’t change their involvement in these things.
That’s a common belief that you can separate yourself from the pagan ties and influence by “ just using it for exercise “.
Give me some time to find a Christian teaching in this very coining but wrong logic.
I’ve watched so many I can’t recall which one it was.
One thing that got me researching was in the daycare where worked as the preschool teacher , other teachers were playing kid yoga videos
( there’s a lot of programs btw 
)for the kids and actually teaching them themselves poses and such. The kids got to where they were asking daily to do yoga. If it is not possible to separate the occult ties , then it’s extremely upsetting to pull children into such practices.
That’s how I handle it too.
I ask God to guide me and reveal what he wants and then help me clue my husband in. He has actually listened and changed his mind on a few things. It’s solely reliance on the Lord to work both in myself and him ( sometimes using me to do so)
Amen on staying in the Bible!!! And remember the importance of context and exegesis NOT eisegesis!!!
Hi Casey. Thanks for your reply. Something has been on my heart for a couple of days now. Regardless of my views I can tend to be a bit overly paradigmatic in my approach. Nothing you mentioned suggests what I am posting here. I just feel bad in a way sometimes with how i might wish to convey things. Your response was thoughtful and loving and kind. I appreciate your zeal with how you are looking at things. I feel like i kind of jumped in while you are in the midst of how our dear Lord has your journey with Hiim to weigh in with my view. Which may not have been the best timing for that perhaps. Again, nothing in what you said is this about. Just kind of “checking” myself. I apologize if it might have been an interruption of sorts if so in any way. Your an awesome sister and I just felt to mention this in the event i have the habit of spilling myself all throughout the forum.
Hey, though, for transparency sake (although likely not a mystery…lol) I do try to look at stuff like Asbury from several different vantage points. Like @Dan mentioned there can be a tendency with some discernment mysteries maybe weighing in a bit much on the matter (a group i have quite of history with). As well, I have an affiliation toward looking more to the good things going on today than the bad. So on that note, to leave in this post perhaps something noteworthy or maybe not at all…but in a way perhaps can give perspective into my heart kind of how i might be looking at some things–or yet processing.
But like i was just thinking the other day about the decision to not have Rick Warren and Francis Chan join the scheduled February 23rd Day of Prayer at Asbury. And the thought occurred to me that I wonder if Asbury kind of came to that place themselves. That University is egalitarian, so i am not necessarily thinking they are going to come to ultra sensitive Christian considerations (although their schools are conservative in most every other respect). But being human i wonder if they were kind of impressed themselves in what took place during the so called revival for the past two weeks. Like maybe in their own matrix way of thinking might have not wanted celebs at the end of all of that after all. Kind of like maybe it was AstroTurf and planned and all. But in later consideration, maybe Asbury was appreciative of how things did go with their chapel situation. And maybe in wanting to respect whatever God might have done, decided to de-celeb it?
If that is something that occurred (only God knows I guess), the irony would then be that what man meant for NAR turned out to His simplicity to upstage their glory. lol. Probably sounds absurd. But yeah…so that is kind of my transparent heart in some respects in varying ways i try to look upon things like this. In any event, I really appreciate your heart and convictions even where we might differ. I see your heart before Him as very precious. Blessing.s
This is the best article I have seen about the problems with and dangers of yoga.
This is an excellent video about the dangers of occultic practices, including yoga and the enneagram.
Hello! 
Thank you for your insight.
Yes of course we should offer grace and pray for them but not to the exclusion of exposing unbiblical ideologies and any ecumenical agenda involved.
Again , I understand WE ARE ALL SINNERS. That is not the issue, the issue is how what has influenced ( past ) or is influencing ( present) them
affects doctrine and truth. It’s like a domino scenario… one domino effects the next domino and so forth. Well , people are influenced by others who then influence another and so on. The influences can be good , bad, or both.
What is concerning me, is that some of the past wrong influences are carrying over into the present and it’s not being corrected.
Just because the Jesus movement was made up of many “ long haired hippies” doesn’t mean God didn’t reach some there. Our appearance is a mute point in the purpose and role of salvation. It’s all about the heart. Anyone can be a whosoever 
And as many have said, God can reach people however and through whoever he wants. That’s not the issue either. In a previous post, I elaborated on my personal take on this now overused statement.
So I pray for those like Joel Osteen , Kenneth Copeland ,etc even Joe Biden ( and his crew) but that’s how I extend grace. To dismiss or gloss over error and red flags with people like these or anyone else is not extending grace.
Gr Gustafson,
I think that I understand what you are asking, and I must say that only the Lord truly know the heart of an individual.
The word of caution that I would have is, that Yoga originated in the dark world of the eastern religion of Hinduism where they have 300 million gods.
Just as I would not go to Heidi Baker and let her lay hands on me and let her impart something within me, and at the same time pray to the Lord that I want only the Holy Spirit.
I personally do not let just anybody lay hands on me and pray, caution in needed in this area I believe.
Let me put it this way, we all know that Satan can quote scripture better than most of us, but I would not sit at his feet to hear scripture being recited.
We all know how he was able to induce doubt into Eve, by simply adding to scripture.
Remember that the devil is an extremely intelligent being, and his best game is deception, he does not present himself to us with a pitchfork and horn.
Hosea 4:6 KJV
[6] My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
As the above scripture warn , we have to be extremely careful because we live in an extremely deceitful generation.
Hope that this make sense, or am I too cautious here.
The core issue of any yoga even for “ just exercise “ is that it is spiritual in nature.
If I’m doing poses that are of Hindu in origin, and such poses are based on their multiple gods, I would not want to pull the One True God into such an activity. There is still a bad spiritual influence and risk being taken to the dark side off the spiritual realm while Christianizing it.
https://www.christianministriesintl.org/warning-christianity-and-yoga-do-not-mix/
Again , agree to disagree but no matter what one calls it , by the true meaning and purpose of these poses is to yoke with other gods. Trying to clean it up and dissociate it from its pagan intent is still abhorrent to God.
The Bible is clear about pagan practices and there are many resources that warn of yoga when just partaking in the poses.
There are lots of exercises including stretching that have nothing to do with Hindu gods that can be done instead.
I’m sensing this is another topic that is going to create division so this is all I’m posting on it.
Please watch in order ( short videos):
Oops, I posted the same article, not seeing you already had.
It was very good.
Which is why, in my earlier post, I mentioned the New Testament, early church’s teaching on whether to eat meat offered to idols. It goes beyond a simple yes/no answer for everyone equally because it is a heart issue. The article says it all far better than I could.
I wholeheartedly agree! Moving on…
In these darkening times it can feel almost cliche or trite to cite Phil 4:8:
8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.
Phillipians 4:8
Yet this echoes Christ our Lord:
28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”
Luke 21
38 Jesus answered him [Peter], “Will you lay down your life for My sake? Most assuredly, I say to you, the rooster shall not crow till you have denied Me three times.
14 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.
John 13-14
In these dark times discernment is doubtless a vital focus, yet we should take care that the subject does not eclipse the light of the Gospel that Christ the Son of God died for the sins of all:
3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
1 Cor 15
13 If we are faithless,
He remains faithful;
He cannot deny Himself.
2 Timothy
I”m sorry Paula but the eating of meat offered to idols is comparing apples to oranges.
The Jews thought it wrong and the Gentiles didn’t
It was about a differing tradition and the recommendation was to not partake in something that was offensive to some in order to keep
Christian unity.
Partaking in something that is a stumbling block for another is what the issue was. Paul even said it wasn’t the meat , it was what the Jews believed about the meat.
Yoga is a whole other issue. The above scriptural example if applied to yoga would be like :
The point was not to offend another because of their perception of something. The idol meat as Paul explained could be eaten but those that didn’t understand that would be offended if they were with others who ate it. So it was advised to not eat it so their testimony and fellowship wasn’t affected.
If I have a friend that has a problem with overeating for example and I take them
to a buffet only meal knowing they have problems with portion control, I’m creating a stumbling block.
If a person has a friend that struggles with gambling or alcohol, they shouldn’t take them to places that have a bar or options to gamble. In other words, a person shouldn’t expose their friend with the problem to something they themselves don’t have a problem with.
The perception of idol meat which is an inanimate object that Paul knew had no evil power to it in and if itself is not the same as participating in yoga practice in which a person is actively performing poses that are specifically for uniting with various gods.
The cajole of idol meat was because of the Jewish conscience that it shouldn’t be eaten. So Paul was advising not to eat it for that reason not because it was actually sinful.
There is a spiritual power in yoga which wasn’t in the meat. It was about not offending someone who had a problem with the meat because it has been offered to idols. It wasn’t about eating it or not eating it because of any type of supernatural powers or defilement.
I understand why you pointed this out but it’s just not a valid comparison. Yoga is actually infected with a true supernatural presence and therefore is not merely a stumbling block.
In the context of avoiding things that is or could be a stumbling block to others in order to keep Christian unity and not offend another is not applicable to yoga.
A person’s opinion or conviction about whether yoga is or isn’t pagan doesn’t matter. Unlike the eating of idol meat where it was opinion that made it wrong to some and not others, yoga is an active worship to other gods and has a power behind it that the meat did not have.
I cannot imagine how ill a true believer must feel when they have attended that church and then discover what their leadership is up too or should I say down too. So awful. Right on par with doing a sayonce (hope i spelled it right) or a oigi board. Wow.
That is troubling. No bueno.
If I may…bridge the gap here. Hopefully.
Words matter.
We can stretch, we probably should stretch.
God made our bodies.
Our bodies move how GOD made them to move.
But yoga the WORD is what is pagan.
The practice.
Not stretching. Kids love to move so yes they love exercise!
Saying we can do “yoga” is like saying.
“I can do a little bit of Hinduism”
Just say “I like to stretch”
Completely ditch the word “yoga”.
Yoga hijacked stretching, especially when it came to be US in the 70s.
All those stretches (almost all, except the super weird ones) are already regular stretches with regular names.
Check out Christ Glorified Fitness, on YouTube.
You have to go to the video to play it, but the link works
Also I just relistened to it…so good!
