Hi Anka (wait…I think that is with a "C’ though, right ). Yeah they talk about a lot different things. Sorry my bad.
Please see your immidate answers in bold with palm tree highlight.
Tom also does something like JD, where this video goes on a lot longer on his website–things they cannot talk about on Facebook and Youtube. Not about Ez 38 though…a bunch of things–i did not hear past the YouTube length.
Ez 38 points on the video start at 15:30, someone asks a question. Goes till 25:30.
What I like about this video is it highlights Ez 38 can’t happen just yet because “other things need to be in place.” I am blessed to know the watch world is taking a turn into this direction. For a while it seemed like we were just waiting for Isiah 17 as the next thing.
I bring this up because I am a strong proponent of Uturn’s Ez 38 master clock of Israel countdown is likely THE MOST PROMINANT prophecy indicator (because the focus, once again, is Israel…not America, not politics, not technology etc). So watcher perspective that picks up on this trend I believe will do well. Perhaps at some point the majority of watchers will be taking the time to see the subtle nuances that can only be clearly seen and discerned by the careful study of looking for them. It would be awesome if in 6 months or a year the church is focused on Ez 38 like Uturn was (as the main “tell” prophetically because of its Israeli clock indicatorness). For the first time in a long time, I am hopeful for rays of light in the watcher world (as some know my general disassociation from their general blue prints).
PEACE PLAN
The watcher world is not open to what this forum has been I believe blessed to be exposed to in the angles Uturn was looking at. The watcher world is in no wise looking for peace in the middle east aside the covenant with the many. The watcher world is not interested in how the Abrham Accords or Saudi normalization fits into prophecy unless it implies the Covenant with the Many. There is “no other” focus in the watcher world. Tom is talking about the AC Covenant with the Many.
In general the watcher world will be looking at Psalm 83 war or Zech 12 as it relates to prophecy. The church focus seems steeped into Covenant with the many. There does not seem to be any room for a prophetic air bubble like peace int the middle east that does not mean AC peace deal. It is currently not a possibility for the watcher world to separate the Abraham Accords from the Covenant with the many. In many ways it would be all we would allow ourselves to see I believe at this point.
PERHAPS A TURNING OF THE TIDE
So I use all those extra words Anca to help provide context. In no wise is the watcher world looking at things the way Uturn was. The church watcher blueprint is basically:
A) Who might the AC be
B) Who are the 10 nations
C) Is x the covenant with the many
D) Which verses in bible is what is happening with Israel now (Psalm 83, Zech 12 etc)
E) Isaiah 17
F) MOB Technology
G) Elements of beast system
H) Oppression of beast system
I) Wich day might be the repture
J) Covenant with the many
K) In some increasing circles: Hagelian Dialectic/False Light
Please keep in mind all the above are views “we have” in relation to how “we are thinking.”
I believe a best focus is:
A) How things pertain to Israel. Not us, the West or the Church
B) Ez 38 as a “Master Clock Timepiece.” We should know that like we know what the beast system and MOB are. Do we though? There is hope we are starting to look now, amen. Maybe Tom will get the Uturn bug
C) The middle east in relation to how it affects Israel (not how it fits what we think is going on in the word)
D) “Likely” that which brings Israel to ultimate peace and safety – Not for AC Covenant but for what it might mean to Israel.
Please keep in mind the above are all ways things occur according to how it relates to Israel. Not how we are thinking.
See D is a good example of what i have been kind of saying (and open to be wrong or change amen). If we look for the AC, beast system, MOB, Ameriica etc, instead or in place of Israel and what things mean to her, I believe this can tend to blind or limit best focus focus. I just believe it is humble of the church to consider formostly before our own views. Making Israel the focus is not the same as focusing on Isael. I just mean it like focusing on what is going on in the world according to how this arffects Israel in contrast to how it explains what is going on, where things are going, what things mean now, what to be looking at now etc. I believe not having Israel as the receptor of incoming phenomenon can move us several miles away from most sober end time interpretive value. Just trying to be helpful where i would see concern with too much direction in making church watcherdom signifcant focus potentially or inadvertently, I don’t believe the church has such charge to bring “high resoulation” prophecy to the table. Maybe a form of low resolution…but if so, in my estimation, that will be found i believe in seeing how things relate to Israel. Not us so much. But i truly believe the prohecy nut is found in how things relate to Israel. Not our sense so much about how well we might potentially see this that and the oher thing.
In that sense, that is why i was impressed with Uturn’s approach because it was perfectly aligned with a hyper and single focus on “how things affect Israel.” Not the church or even the world. Just them. The one’s through whom God proivded prophecy to came. If that makes sense. Amen. In this I would say is the most probable clarity in sober focus…and the key to “everything else.” Blessings.