great way to put that. if the tribulation is a time of God’s wrath, it would make sense for believers to not be here for it. which is a fine thing to look forward to, and indeed it does not mean one considers it to be our savior. it is normal to look forward to the blessings of God, and His Word even tells us lots about what His blessings specifically will be.
(though I will acknowledge there may be people who treat the rapture like an idol and don’t get in deep with God like they should. I just wouldn’t put pretrib thinkers all in that box together.)
many people who must experience God’s wrath will fortunately come to a place of putting their faith in Him. but if we already have that, then yeah, pre-trib makes more sense to me. we won’t need to be here.
I spose God could always have His own reasons for having us here any time, though. the thing for me is, I have not studied end-times in the Bible nearly enough to have my own grounded perspective on it. I trust farag on many things, so I take all his preaching seriously but I leave room for the fact that I don’t know enough to stand on my own in the topic of rapture or end-times. so I’m not pre-trib or anything else, just still learning.
Hi William,
I enjoyed this very much it is deeply profound in Gods Wisdom.
I would add while it continues to get darker and stranger for some, it gets brighter for others who know what awaits them.
Agape,
Ken
Hi Allison,
One of the reasons I call the Forum my home is because of Pastor JD and Pastor Mac, and always also because of the rich Christian fellowship.
Please understand that the teaching here is always on the mark, full of truth and love.
As of yet, (and I do try) I have not found one thing to disagree with in the teaching of the Word by Pastor JD and Pastor Mac. It is always spot on and in context.
If you knew me well, you would know that I would not say this unless it were true. I have only been able to say it about a handful of pastors in the past.
Please don’t think I have them on a pedestal, I certainly do not. But I do know true Men of God when I see them.
I guess what I am trying to say is that God brought you here to the right place, at the right time.
God Bless you.
Agape,
Ken
thanks so much ken, I appreciate your assurance!! I have enjoyed your posts and take your viewpoint seriously. so that further adds to how I feel about farag now after what you’ve said. I completely agree I came to right place at the right time. I think around March of last year. :] thank you for your encouragement!!
First things first please read the new Forum Code of Conduct.
Next, there is too much to disagree with in your post to do it here publicly.
Here is my offer, I will sit down with you privately to show you where I disagree with you, and why, using the Word of God in the correct context. You also have a lot right, just not in context, or the right order.
I would also like to Invite another member (@FoxMan) to join us if he is available. That way you have a second opinion independent of me.
You will not hear anything that Pastor JD has already taught on.
Agape,
Ken
@JoshuaYeshua
Hi Joshua,
I see @FoxMan has declined to participate after leaving a comment as to his reason why. Truthfully I should have asked him first, and not volunteered him. I could find someone else.
I wish to reassure you that I have no intent to engage in or to start an argument with you. My offer to help still stands.
I believe that discussions can be fruitful in putting the end time puzzle together to gain a deeper understanding of the Word. In doing so it clears a lot of issues up for people.
Pastor JD did an excellent in depth teaching on this very subject.
Please check out his Prophesy Update 2020-08-09
Pre-Tribulation Rapture Proof
The next pandemic will be a real one. Because of the so called vaccines. Prof. Dr. Cahill and many others are speaking about what will happen when in autumn the vaccinated will be exposed to the wild virus. I expect many deaths. And I expect, that the unvaccinated will be held guilty for that. For me, its just the question, if I still be here. But that will never change my decision never getting the shot. If they force me, fine. The sin is on them. I have peace with that.
Being nudged to share this thought.
Brothers and sisters, it is ever so important we set aside our strifes and truly show His love to one another. Time is of the essence.
His Word says love one another. We are to show His love, the love we feel from Him every day, to each person whose paths He provides to us. Keep only Him and His word in our hearts.
Keep your lamp full, keep your light shining for all to see Him. Things and thoughts can no longer be about us nor can they be of this world.
Pray for all people.
Many eyes are not seeing the deception of the evil one. Pray without ceasing. Be vigilant in and steadfast in His word.
Do not focus on the deceptions as those things are of this world.
Turn your eyes fully on Jesus. Do not stray.
