I wasn’t questioning your Salvation or even alluding to anyone’s salvation 
I just was randomly thinking out loud and the whole “ant” thing began to sound silly. So I removed it.
Forget the ant analogy lol. God will use you as His child to do His will.
This is a question based on a misrepresentation of my statement.
My statement:
Please accept my apologies for my humor that was hurtful to you. I never want to hurt anyone’s feelings.
Vicki, I’m going to stop this conversation right here. I have shown you–in bold–that I was speaking of injections potentially being harmful to humanity. Respect my wishes, please. Thank you.
This Sun BP Update on Israel:
Live updates from Times of Israel:
Hi Casey…most dearest and utterly lovely sister 
I did not mean to reference Heb 10:34 to specify property. Although yes it does do that. The Christians of Pentecost were not worshipping in the temple. They would not be allowed in the temple. The temple would be destroyed by God in 70 AD along with the entire religious service of Judaism. Believers met in homes. To lose your house would be in some cases losing a church. Cambridge Bible gives a better sense of the government taking their property and running them out of town. The emphasis I meant was on their joyful attitude even though.
I realize this is a very different world. And I believe we should protect our houses of Christian worship. I don’t think the Pastor was angry about a building being blocked. But the infringement on their freedom to worship. It is understandable he got upset. It shows he cares and is not afraid. The government walks us to become beta male society so they can be the husband. Like forbidding adults to stop their 6 year old from taking beta blockers. Kids of today are increasingly having the government as their parents…removing the rights from their true parents (like any true socialist regime might do). So I understand to be upset here. I don’t think pastors should just passively “go with it.” But today because of cameras and press…the lives this influences is far more than the immediate audience.
MATTHEW POOLE’S COMMENTARY
And took joyfully the spoiling of your goods; and in their own sufferings, by being rifled for the gospel; their goods, estates, and means of subsistence, were either by fines, confiscations, or violence, ravished from them; their enemies, like so many harpies, preying on them, 1 Thessalonians 2:14. So as these Christian Hebrews at this time had their respective properties, and all was not levelled among them. Though they were so impoverished to make them comply with the Gentile superstition and idolatry, yet they cheerfully bore it, esteeming it their honour and privilege thus to suffer for Christ, and herein obeyed him, as Matthew 5:11,12, and as the apostles did before them, in Acts 5:41.
CAMBRIDGE BIBLE FOR SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES
took joyfully the spoiling of your goods] Christians were liable to be thus plundered by lawless mobs. Epictetus, by whose time Stoicism had become unconsciously impregnated with Christian feeling, says, “I became poor at thy will, yea and gladly.” On the supposition that the letter was addressed to Rome, “the spoiling of goods” has been referred to the edict of Claudius which expelled the Jews (and with them the Christian Jews) from Rome; or to the Neronian persecution. But the supposition is improbable.
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When it does will we count it as joy or be yelling at them?
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I’ve never taken it that way. But you have good support Casey. https://bit.ly/3oeztjf All but one commentator sees it your way. That would seem to be more than just how you might have taken it. For there seems to be some rich history in understanding it that way. Kudos
However, the one on that link that differs is known to be of super human intelligence…lol…i will have you know. 
Respectfully though dear sister, a sample:
“…he attended Kettering Grammar School where he mastered the Latin classics and learned Greek by age 11. He continued self-study in everything from logic to Hebrew, his love for the latter remaining throughout his life…” John Gill (theologian) - Wikipedia
Gill stated: “whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause, shall be in danger of judgment. By “brother” is meant, not in a religious sense, one that is of the same faith, or in the same church state; nor, in a strict natural sense, one that is so in the bonds of consanguinity; but in a large sense, any man, of whatsoever country or nation: for we are to be angry with no man; that is, as is rightly added.”
I would add Matt 5:44: “But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you…” That was the same sermon.
To enlarge this…I believe this is what Gill was looking at when thinking what he said (same sermon):
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may prove yourselves to be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Even the tax collectors, do they not do the same? 47 And if you greet only your brothers and sisters , what more are you doing than others ? Even the Gentiles, do they not do the same? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
A final thought on that. Jesus was stating what was said about murder. Just as it would not be ok to murder those outside the faith…the other things Jesus said might also apply?
CONCERNING OUTSIDERS
Col 4:6 Act wisely toward outsiders, redeeming the time. 6Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.
Luke 6:27-37
27 “But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who are abusive to you. 29 Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your [r]cloak, do not withhold your [s]tunic from him either. 30 Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back. 31 [t]Treat people the same way you want them to [u]treat you. 32 If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners in order to receive back the same amount . 35 But love your enemies and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil people . 36 [v]Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
THIS TO OUTSIDERS
37 “Do not [w]judge, and you will not be judged; and do not [x]condemn, and you will not be condemned; [y]pardon, and you will be pardoned. 38 Give, and it will be given to you. They will [z]pour into your lap a good measure—pressed down, shaken together, and running over. For by your standard of measure it will be measured to you in return.”
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1 Peter 2:23 23When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly.Preformatted text
Luke 23:34
Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up His garments by casting lots.
NOTICED WHO WAS REBUKED (Luke 9)
51 When the days were approaching for His [y]ascension, He [z]was determined to go to Jerusalem; 52 and He sent messengers on ahead of Him, and they went and entered a village of the Samaritans to [aa]make arrangements for Him. 53 And they did not receive Him, because [ab]He was traveling toward Jerusalem. 54 When His disciples James and John saw this , they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?” 55 But He turned and rebuked them.[ac] 56 And they went on to another village.
I REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING
We can and should speak out against evil. Jesus harsh language was toward His own who did not receive Him. He never spoke a harsh word to the gentiles. It was to the spiritual leadership. When He got the whip, He fulfilled prophecy “having zeal for His house.” But I am sure just like healing on the sabbath He wanted the leaders to have issues with Him doing that. The comparison would be challenging our pastors. I know what you mean. Those rebukes the disciples had dusting their feet off were because the of the Jews rejection. In the church we can have church discipline. And we can rebuke each other. I believe we can also rebuke the world. But that rebuke needs to be filtered through scripture more severely because of public scrutiny.
WHAT IF ITS AN EVIL EMPLOYER?
18 Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and gentle, but also to those who are [[a]harsh. 19 For this finds favor, if for the sake of conscience toward God a person endures [[b]grief when suffering unjustly. 20 For what credit is there if, when you sin and are harshly treated, you endure it with patience? But if when you do what is right and suffer for it you patiently endure it, this finds favor with God.
21 For you have been called for this purpose, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you would follow in His steps, 22 H e who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in His mouth; 23 [c]and while being abusively insulted, He did not insult in return; while suffering, He did not threaten, but kept entrusting Himself to Him who judges righteously; 24 and He Himself [d]brought our sins in His body up on the [e]cross, so that we might die to [f]sin and live for righteousness; by His [g]wounds you were healed. 25 For you were continually straying like sheep, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and [h]Guardian of your souls.
AGAIN I DO NOT THINK THE GOOD SHOULD DO NOTHING
But we are not of this world. If a man is hurting people physically, take him down. If a politician is deceiving, speak publicly against his measures and character. This is for public good and protection. What is good that the pastor did is get the worlds attention. But as servants of Christ we want the Fathers attention. That takes self control…wisdom…and measured response because those listening need to know your Christ. Not our valor. We are not in the Truman Show 
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That is for us the church to obey…not the world.
That is what Facebook is like though. Like Pastor JD says, he is not interested in dividing republicans and democrats. Although many on the dem side are deeply evil, we are not of this world. We should point out their evil so as to get them out of government. But our calling a dem evil to their face…well…yeah…I don’t think it works like that so much.
John 13:35 By this all people will know that you are My disciples: if you have love for one another.” We tend to day to think that the majesty of Christ’s love is soft and fluffy and stepped on. But knowing how to love a person who is not a believer beyond our labels of them…is supernatural and will spawn conversations way beyond, “You are evil.” Just sayin.
I would be careful here Casey. I know your lovely heart. But when we start using ideological logic that gradates who gets the love of Christ and who does not…does this not remind you of another 1st century group? We are not calling people to follow us. We do not have that empirical power. We are to point people to Him…not how they don’t deserve Him. Its a slippery slope.
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Find a Christian Pastor like that and go call him that.
God humbles. We are not the emissaries to humble people or become the punisher. This is not a comic book. And I mean that so radically respectful like. I am merely address a god of this age vibe the church has inherited.
Paul was talking to Christians OR he was shaming the Jews. If you want to be like Paul…go find a group of people that have had a religion for 1500 years, and God is doing something new with their religion, and when they don’t see it and repent their race will be splattered throughout the globe. Go find those people…and be like Paul. 
Go find a Christian brother and call him Satan.
I understand the sentiment and I would opt and vote for a civil war. But the world…ehem…is in the way of God. They are his enemy. Sharks do what sharks do. They’re suppose to. In all honesty, look I really hear what you are saying and where you are coming from…but we don’t get to claim that America looks Christian. This is not our world. Its theirs. The only heaven they’ll know. And what should we do? Go beat them with tar and feathers for being who they truly are? And how does that NOT violate the beatitudes? Its to easy for Western Christianity to justify. We Are not The Champions …He is. We are more than conquerors…but we are not sending fire down upon people that don’t cooperate. For that I guess we could start a Netflix series. But the reality is…this is not our world. It is not made in our image. It’s made in His. And He gave us info about what that looks like. I realize the constitution was not written in 50 AD. There are things we need to know and how they work when it is not a totalitarian government. Because once it does…all these rights you want to protect will be as Peter needing to be rebuked. Until them…we have them. But please consider that beatitudes are not just for us to believers. Maybe meditate on those a bit.
I’m consistent here. I don’t think he should have shown the world a pastor LOOKING like he violated scripture before the world. I think his heart was totally in the right place. If someone is saying that that pastor was wrong for doing that and he needs to repent because he was foolish…I think that is judging. I don’t think Pastor JD is saying that. Nor am I. I think the point is…lets not pick up that example and run with it baby. Lets respect the pastor in love and speak to one another about the spiritual implications. God knows his heart. In faith perhaps God may grant reward. But our allegiance is to Christ more than to a dear pastor who has a huge heart and may not have displayed it the best. I don’t consider that judging. If I were with him I would start by hugging him and showering him with praise. Then after a while I would begin to gently move toward what I am saying here. Because he’d be my elder. Rebuke is to be respectful. I’d ask him to teach me the difference of what i am saying. Of course after asking about his growing up in Poland.
Learning to give them the dignity we desire for ourselves. The golden rule?
Yes but the USA is not the Vatican. That command is for us. Not outsiders. And I use “the Vatican” as hyperbole and a joke. Don’t go there
That’s because you have a good heart.
On the “fool” comment, I’d just say we can call something foolish. We can say “don’t play the fool.” We can say, “You’re being foolish.” We can say, “You are a fool.” But that last one…just like all the rest…better not be from anger…but it better be from love…because any of those from a condescending Christian heart…will be hurtful and equally wicked…i believe.
My great pleasure Casey. Thanks for your kind thoughts and care here with me. You are a sincere delight to know my lovely sister. Blessings.
“Avoid Wicked Customs”
9 “When you come into the land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations.
10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,
11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord,
and because of these abominations the Lord your God drives them out from before you.
13 You shall be blameless before the Lord your God.
14 For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the Lord your God has NOT appointed such for you.
I would guess that Pastor JD’s coming Prophecy Update will be quite informative with all that is going on.
Of course, we also received new mask guidelines this week…
Simon Says Put On Mask
Simon Says Take Off Mask
Simon Says Put On Mask…Again
Simon Says Quack Like A Duck
Simon Says Take This Mark On Your Right Hand Or Forehead
SATAN Says, “Your Mine Now” 
Hi Wren. Not sure who’s post this might be addressing. I got a little lost in the past several ones. But AMEN!!!
And again Amen. As this post has come after a rather lengthy one of mine, for clarity sake I’d like to respond in light of the chronology for the reader. I believe we should call out abortion as murder. Amen.
Many people that are well caught up in the world don’t see it like that. Coming against planned parenthood and legislation against all that I think the church should well be involved in. Being able to help women or couples that are leaning to do abortion is a touchy thing though as I see it. I know someone who does that for a living. It is an extremely admirable thing. What a beautiful brother.
Missionaries are trained to learn the culture they go into (language, customs, etc.). Part of the American culture is unfortunately those who believe abortion is a right and not murder. If I were coming as a missionary from another country I might see that in light perhaps a similar light as i might with maybe (like if I were to be a missionary to Haiti) a witch doctor in Haitian culture thinking their rituals are what he’s suppose to do to help people. Beyond demon possession, well, that is part of many of the villagers customs and orientations. Being able to help that person see differing dynamics they may not be so familiar with or blinded from would be like one way i would think might be at times helpful or effective in helping them come to an understanding of how wicked some practices are, in hopes (along with the word) that person may come to realize it as.
There are those in America who are just hardened and won’t listen. But many have been conditioned and are salvageable spiritually in Christ. Their defenses against it being murder may be difficult to overcome. Always worth it though. But maybe not always the best place to start with some. Not sure if this is related to your post…but trying. Thought it worth a try. Blessings.
I just want to add this link into the thread, not sure if you or anyone else has seen this yet. U.S. CDC finds more clotting cases after J&J vaccine, sees causal link
Thank you for the reply Teren. I had actually edited the post just prior to seeing yours. It was not directed at you. It was in response to one indicating they felt there was nothing wrong with aborted fetal cells in the injections. As a Born again believer, I find this almost incomprehensible, while at the same time, I have no wish to inflame what appears to be a goading tinder box waiting to happen. I would much rather post encouraging scriptures and stay in my lane. 
Hmmmm
So, all of a sudden the “fully vaccinated” have rights the rest of us do not. Have you seen the new poster with guidelines from CDC? What spurred this sudden departure from the confusing mask mandates for the obedient? My contention is we can thank confusion indeed – Biden’s confusion. I believe in an effort to reduce the ongoing embarrassment coming from this president’s obvious inability to find and handle his mask or understand when and where to wear it, the CDC “decided” it would be best to just end the mask mandate for some and claim it is a benefit for the “vaccinated” public. This also plays into their narrative of “vaccinated good” vs “unvaccinated bad.” As is their custom, they have managed, yet again, to kill two–or more-- birds with one stone.
It won’t be long before the obedient demand proof of vaccination and we can easily run that to its expected conclusion.
From what I was told this morning is that calling for troops on the ground was a set up. When Gaza terrorists heard the news, they went into underground tunnels. The Israeli’s then flew over Gaza and released 400 rockets, destroying the tunnels. Many terrorists died. Brilliant!
Yes, like it or not, our elected officials have decided to vest power in the unelected CDC. They have no authority to govern or determine, only to advise, yet here we are. Somehow, someone died and made them god.
When a person has misconstrued our statements and rendered a conversation fruitless, it is best to disengage and ignore, most definitely. Good point, Ed.
We can walk away from a conversation without heat or resorting to name-calling, etc. Praise God! as Christians we are gifted with the in-dwelling Holy Spirit…and an aspect of the fruit of the Spirit is self-control. 
Having said that: no one exercises this perfectly (as I know from my own life 
) but we can pick ourselves up when we do flare up and try again, thanks to God’s forgiveness and grace.
Posting this, because I think it points to help explain the “what happened??” question that many of us have had regarding the Grahams. From Billy, and now to a few puzzling things that Franklin comes up with at times. Please watch and consider. No need to be a fan/non fan of the minister (JMAC, whom I actually appreciate) who provides the rebuke. We simply must take scripture at its face value. Unfortunately, Billy Graham added interpretation that does not align with the saving gospel of Christ. Subtle, but erred. Hint: the fact that Billy said this on the Hour of Power should be a clue. This is Universalism, is it not? Subtle, but it’s there: - YouTube
Hoping I copied this correctly and that it is ok.
Our president is saying he is pulling our military out of Israel. We know Israel has to stand alone as God’s word tells us.
You are correct, BeKind.