May 9 2021: Bible Prophecy Update

[wren]

@Myrrh

You know that they have not yet ever been able to isolate the virus in a lab, unless something has just happened recently.

Great point, you are right Grace, they haven’t isolated it. So how can they make a v for it? And the v is so safe, they have to force mandate it? The whole thing is so insane. When I looked up “corona” in a Taber’s medical encyclopedia that is over 30 years old, it is shown as soley the common cold virus, and there are over 100 variations of it. All of which are weakening every day, because that is what viruses do. They are not alive. They are only particles that attach to cells, and infects the RNA. They do not grow stronger, they weaken over time because that is how God made our miraculous immune systems.

You are also right that could very well have morphed this ruse from some kind of bat or other pathogenic organism including some parasite we don’t know about. didn’t Gates just get millions of gmo mosquitos released in FL Or something that activates with 5G causing hypoxia? insects are infamous vectors of all kinds of yukky conditions. Malaria, typhoid, etc. They’ve even had cloning tech and something called genetic “recombinant” technologies for over 21 years now. That’s how long ago I found out about it. It is used to make all types of hormones that people take, like progesterone, estorgen, ect. They make them out of horse urine, of all things. One cell of progesterone, and recombinant can duplicate it to millions. The same could apply to pathogen cells. Okay, your eyes are probably glazing over by now, sorry for length of this. It is more comforting to focus on blessed hope, and keep handing out tracts. But its also nice to be able to have good convo with sisters in the Lord too. Its rare and a great relief amid the mind-numbing drivel out there in the world today. God Bless, and Maranatha!

[TCC]

Intriguing Thanks.

[TCC]

Thanks Caryl for your reply. I came out of some church background that I believe had some unhealthy placements upon obeying those over you. There were some very creative things as well from that church. But still, I come from a sense that in general authoritarianism within the church is on the rise. And it is not healthy.

A LITTLE BACKDROP ON ME
The way America is going, I’d vote yes if it were an option for a civil war. I believe that God used America to lead the world away from the era of Kings and Queens and into democracy. I believe God has used America for great evangelism. I believe our elections were stolen but that much of the church is concerned with a sense of Trump worship and feels its better for the church not to have Trump and believe that America is better off going into socialism than the church look to a man for national salvation. I believe that is a wrong view.

I think the modern church had never seen what government in America could look like until Trump. And that the American church got genuinely excited about the prospect. Sure there are some fringe groups that lean toward Trump worship or dominionism and have no concept of a potentially soon coming tribulation. But America was set for success and a constitution that honors humane dignity. I believe the intimidation of our church turning to a man for temporal success became too much for it to bear and in some places not see so clearly in light of that intimidation. And in that, consigned in part to perceiving along with CNN that a stolen election theory is the big lie. In that view their is prospecting that Trump may indeed be the antichrist or a Luciferian Light bearing leader of our age.

I don’t subscribe to the Trump as Luciferian Light theory. But I do empathize that overtures towards human rights are at a strange fever pitch that can tend to overshadow biblical principles and clarity in practice thereof. I see lines blurring. It is certainly a complicated time we live in. Amen.

MY PROPHETIC LEANING
I am a cessationist and don’t believe in modern day prophets. So this is just from my own research and leanings. I believe the likelihood of America overthrowing the Biden regime is extremely high. I believe it is highly likely that we will find massive voter fraud. And I believe Trump will make his way back into office, whether through a recount or via 2024 elections. I also suspect that 2024 is an excellent year for a tribulation to take off. In that respect I have a unique view on the Rev 6:2 first seal. I believe it may not be antichrist (nor certainly not Christ either) but a kick off point of shock and awe victory of America and the USA constitution. And the judgement therein upon the globalists and evil government players. I believe this to possibly ripple effect out throughout the world and a collapse of central banking throughout the globe. I perceive the 1st seal of Rev 6:2 as a mercy judgement but short lived. I think this is important to point out so that you know how I am thinking as I touch on the reason i am replying to you.

MY CONCERN
I do have a concern though. In some ways, if Trump is the first seal judgement it could be quite a test for the church. And some of that may include an increasing attitude in the flesh. I am pretrib rapture, but I believe the church “may” be here for this event. So when I see Pastor JD concerned with a church becoming a bit more fleshy…I think there is some merit to his concern. And in ways I concur. In some ways, I think what Pastor JD might feel a need to do is counter some fleshy leanings of the church…and perhaps overcompensate a bit. I don’t agree with overcompensation, but I understand his concern for it.

@Caryl

My problem with JD has come up lately after the election loss. Not the stressing of evangelism, but the total appeasement attitude toward any evil. Like we are now to hide out and not speak out or try and say anything against the blantant evil we see in public or life.

I would like you to check out a video if and when you might have time. You can play it on 1.5 speed or 1.75 to shorten it. It is just over an hour long. But I think it gets at the heart of where i am coming from. On Point Preparedness leans toward a Trump as antichrist perspective, which I don’t agree with. Another thing I don’t agree with is that we have to choose between a godly reason and a fleshy reason. For example, I think as citizens we can protest, and we can hold government accountable (the New Testament was written during tyrannical times–how believers are to act in a democracy can be a bit fogged up from clarity on what to be like). I believe On Point Preparedness can stray a little too much into the theological weeds in how it looks upon the events of today. But this video is seemingly well trimmed of most of that (except where I have already stated differences I have with that ministry) and is really worth hearing out. I think what is stated in this video helps believers understand a deafening tide coming upon the church. But like I said, I believe Trump stands a pretty good chance of becoming the 1st seal. So in a way…our high fever might not just be us. The world has never met a seal of God before (if in fact it indeed might be).

Well I hope you may take the time to check this video out Caryl. I think this might also come in handy with a conversation on this front I have been having with another member, @CLE

Blessings.

Biblical Responses to Tyranny In Jesus's Day

[NamDoc]

@wren

Then the question dawned…how is it that an anti parasite treatment is wiping out “novel cv,”? What does that say about the nature of cv itself? Does it indicate that it is a virus…or …something wholly other? Hmmmmm. Any thoughts?

My thoughts have always gone to, bio weapon + massive PSYOP = where we are today.

If I self identify as Balaam’s ass will the anti parasite treatment wipe out “novel cv in me. (joke, hope not offensive)

[Myrrh]

Quite interesting and quite telling, Wren. So much is SO telling, these days. Sometimes, all I can do is shake my head.

[Myrrh]

The thoughts about a potential bio weapon are definitely in the discussions of today, Doc.

[FoxMan]

@NamDoc

If I self identify as Balaam’s ass will the anti parasite treatment wipe out “novel cv in me

[CLE]

@TCC

I am aware of that. But pointing out concerns in pastors to me is not the same as condemning them

That’s true, I had a bunch of interruptions and haven’t actually had a chance to finish the update; or really even watch it honestly.

I was thinking on this subject over the weekend and I’ve come to this general conclusion.

I think both are correct. My husband said this about the law of “an eye for an eye” you have a right do do that (take an eye for an eye) under the law, but Jesus called us to be “better” or “greater” and those verses are many on how he breaks down the better way, which is love.

So, he had the right to defend his church (I think there is enough Biblical back for that, but that’s just my thoughts based on what I know now).

However it’s possible there was a “better” way. I think it’s assuming a lot to think that the Pastor at Calgary “lost” his chance to save anyone by using the language he used. We have no clue what impact he had, and we can’t assume we know that it was negative even.

He didn’t curse, and I didn’t hear anything that shocked me. I don’t like yelling, for many reasons, but I didn’t hear anything that was a curse word. The only word he used that was super strong was psychopaths.

He is just a man. So when that situation arises for us individually we handle it however God calls us to. I don’t know this guy personally. Nor do I know the future, and the impact this will have, negative, positive, or neutral.

As far as Jesus calling the woman a dog–and putting the Jewish nation first–it’s a spiritual truth. I don’t think it matters if he calls her a “pet dog” or a dog. It’s the same to me. I’m not offended by it, and neither was the woman.

Also, pointing out how Jesus dealt with people trying to hinder God’s people, and ministry:

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men!

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“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

Closing down a church when walmart etc. are still open is pretty hypocritical.

These officers are blind hypocrites serving an evil government.

Closing down a place of worship is pretty evil.

So yes, I agree, maybe he could have been nicer–he could have done it differently. However, I don’t feel strongly that he sinned or anything.

Also this:

Video: Canadian Christian-Rights Pastor Artur Pawlawski's House Set On Fire

Many may think he was “too strong” and missed the mark on his being upset by cops trying to shut down his church, but maybe we should be looking more at the fact that, this is it.

This is the end, and as imperfect as we are, this world is becoming more and more hostile to Jesus, and this guy is paying for his bravery, and for his actions.

And it’s because he is a man who serves Jesus; imperfectly maybe, but he serves Jesus none-the-less.

How evil is it that police officers are closing down churches? That’s pretty evil. Pretty hypocritical too.

The religious leaders in Jesus’ day were the same way.

Cops are not just called to “follow orders” they are called to uphold justice–and they were not. They were perverting justice. But they are blind guides maybe because they can’t see the hypocrisy with these restrictions, in Canada and worldwide.

So I feel bad for all involved. May God have mercy, I pray. Amen.

[NamDoc]

@CLE

And it’s because he is a man who serves Jesus; imperfectly maybe, but he serves Jesus none-the-less.

I know I do, the only one that could cast a stone didn’t, so who am i…AMEN Casey

[CLE]

@Dan

We will drive men from Christ if we run around calling them fools, Nazi’s, etc…

Jesus calls me a sinner, and I’m not pushed away from Christ because of this, but TOWARDS Christ.

Only the pharisees were “offended” when they were called sinners, right? Didn’t everyone else, the prostitutes and tax collectors FLOCK to Jesus because Jesus was pretty hard on sin. He actually raised the bar even higher. Hence why he had to die because we cannot do it on our own, we can do nothing without Christ.

I see your point though, it might not be the greatest thing to tell people what they are doing is wrong in such a “harsh” manner. But it stands to reason those people trying to close down the church may have already rejected Christ. We don’t know.

I don’t know anything at all except that, the pastor at Calgary is a man, and I think he was doing what he thought was right, and I personally (not that this is correct) I cannot see Biblical grounds for saying he was wrong for being angry and protective of God’s church.

I see people rejecting Christ WORLDWIDE. Everyone is without excuse.

I’m not going to blame this Pastor for pushing these people away from Christ, maybe they have already rejected Christ? Each person is without excuse.

As for the pastor, I don’t judge him, and I can’t say I would have done better if someone tried to attack my church with hypocritical and fascist laws.

They are doing this all in the name of “peace and SAFETY” they are rejecting God already.

It’s the end-times, thank you for sharing your point, it’s very valid, but I think we are seeing more and more end times about us, and that’s what this is. I am deeply saddened for Canada and the WORLD which is seeing so much of this…so much rejection.

God IS already being rejected. The big picture is that closing down a church is already rejecting Christ. I fear those people are hardly at risk of being “lost”.

But maybe you are right brother, it’s possible this guy messed up, but when judgement day comes, Jesus isn’t going to let those people “go” because a guy at a church yelled at them one time.

They are responsible too. More so maybe. Bless you friend.

[CLE]

@NamDoc

Amen. My heart hurts for everyone. These are sad times. I know God is sad too, he doesn’t want anyone to perish. I see myself in that pastor too, I mean, sometimes you get mad because people are so blinded, and you don’t like what’s going on. I mean I don’t see how anyone can be completely serene all the time, not in the flesh.

God is great, and Jesus gives us a great peace through the holy spirit, but I lose my cool for really dumb things sometimes so I can’t judge this guy for his passion for God’s church, I will leave that for God only, He knows.

I think it was Paul who said he doesn’t even judge himself. I think we can learn from this pastor that in the times we are in, this is coming our way, and to pray, read the Word and be ready. God will guide us, we can discern His good and perfect will, hopefully.

[FoxMan]

@TCC

Intriguing Thanks.

I do believe that is the shortest response I have ever gotten from you.

[Redeemed777]

I don’t think you even have to have a name anymore, you can identify as any kind of ass (Balaams, your neighbors ) and people would jump on the bandwagon to support your cause

[TCC]

Hi Casey, thanks for your thoughtful answer.

@CLE

I think both are correct. My husband said this about the law of “an eye for an eye” you have a right do do that (take an eye for an eye) under the law, but Jesus called us to be “better” or “greater” and those verses are many on how he breaks down the better way, which is love.

Yes, this is the kind of thing to consider. I appreciate your heart in considering it over the weekend and discussing it in more detail with your husband. I tend to look at things by what today’s vernacular might be considered “reverse engineering.” The concerns of people and situations are upon my heart deeply. But I don’t start there. My starting point is what is the word of God demonstrating? I may not understand how it applies in every context, but I give sway to what the scripture is saying before looking at each individual situation and how it plays out. When we see how Jesus treated the religious leadership, we are starting with scripture, amen. What I believe what is most helpful in addition is to include as much of the holistic counsel of God as well…and in its own context too, first. In doing that, sometimes or often I find it helpful to separate and remove what I think about a situation or matter entirely and just see what the word is saying on a variety of fronts that would help to understand how to even look at a situation or how to frame it. If that makes sense.

There is a video I would request you watch when you have a chance. I don’t always agree with that ministry, but in what is helpful and necessary to consider for our day, I think it is very well done and presents things we should consider. I make additional comments that might be helpful in where I agree or disagree with that ministry in the post reply to Caryl.

The trend we have today in America is defense of the constitution against Marxist adversaries. This is huge because it is not just about America. For whichever way things go in our country…so goes the world (as we plainly see in the middle east as well as the southern border). The tendency leaning is toward the proverbial protection of what is human dignity (the constitution) vs. globalism and elitists trying to reorganize the world. It makes sense that we would want to protect human dignifying freedom. And to a great degree I concur. But it is healthy to keep in mind that as we see with Critical Race Theory, or class warfare, or other Marxist tactics…it is a design of Marxism to pit us vs. them in the flesh. When people are guided by that, we become easy pray for manipulation. Biblically it is Christian virtue and ethics vs. the darkness. But I don’t see that as us vs. them. I see Romans 12:17-21:

Never repay evil for evil to anyone. [t]Respect what is right in the sight of all people. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all people. 19 Never take your own revenge, beloved, but [u]leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written: “VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY,” says the Lord. 20 “BUT IF YOUR ENEMY IS HUNGRY, FEED HIM; IF HE IS THIRSTY, GIVE HIM A DRINK; FOR IN SO DOING YOU WILL HEAP BURNING COALS ON HIS HEAD.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Believers are to grow in respect to God’s saving grace operating superna(turally in this mindset. For it is not evil vs. good…but good vs. the idea of evil…which (concerning good) is a far more principled “otherly world” or “other kingdom” perspective and not subject to the how we might parse out things in the rational. Please visit this post and if you have some time, you may disagree or have more questions than answers (as I tend to disagree with that ministry in places). But it is of spiritually sound and sober mind to consider what that video is looking at. I realize that Pastor Pawlowski has good reasons for bringing attention upon this matter and is “just a man.” And no one will be perfect like Christ. This is true. Governments have come and gone, but God’s word and principles are forever and belong to no age in particular. In saying what I will here, is not to judge but to consider what Christ is teaching us and also where the hiccups (as to spiritual discernment) in our age (every era has them) might be. It is a hard thing to think outside our context. For it is near and dear and very real to us. But how would it have looked if Christ hung on the cross and said: “You filthy dirty little psychopaths.” Instead of “Father forgive them for they know not what they do.” Blessings.

Video of Interest

[NamDoc]

@CLE

I think we can learn from this pastor that in the times we are in

@CLE I personally, admire him, Casey, he is on the front-lines. I am sitting at home comfortably at my desk.

James 4:12 God alone, who gave the law, is the Judge. He alone has the power to save or to destroy. So what right do you/I have to judge your neighbor?
Warmly Doc

[CLE]

@NamDoc I agree. Whether right or wrong, that is how my heart feels as well. Blessings.

@TCC I will look more closely later my friend, thanks for conversing with me.

[NamDoc]

Not everyone agreed with Jesus, not everyone will agree with us. Carry on sister,

[wren]

JackN
@NamDoc

Docs hilarious comment along with these rare photos of Balaam’s a**… .priceless! I laughed so hard my stomach hurts. Thank you for the humor! I don’t know what we would do without it. The Lord bless you both!

[Redeemed777]

There once was a man that was vexed,
How could he reply to the text?
He could leave it alone, and put down his phone
But his opinion he waxed, saying no to the vax!
Was it better he thought, so perplexed,
To be vaxed or just to stay vexed?

[wren]

@StillWaters

A SINGLE dose controlled viral replication in a 24-48 hour period. Wow! That is in line with my experience. I began improving about 24 hours after taking it when I was sick.
So terribly tragic that more doctors aren’t on board with its usage to treat and prevent serious cases of covid. It’s appalling.

Sarah, I’m so glad this helped you recover, that is awesome. I’m guessing it was the tablet type?, I’ve heard those are very safe. I agree with you, its tragic that US docs don’t give this ( and the multitude of other effective simple inexpensive things that work to wipe out the flu and colds) Did you know that Olive leaf, and olive leaf extract stop the viral replication process in the RNA too, and sure enouph hubby and I have taken this if we feel any cold or flu trying to rear its head, and its gone the next day. cost for the olive leaf powder at the HF store, around $2 (buttocks protecting disclaimer, this is not medical advice, soley intended for educational, historical, and informational purposes. )